2014 Conference Alignment

Discussion in 'College & Amateur Soccer' started by RobtheAggie, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought the same thing then I started to look at travel. GA State and GA Southern are two travel partners. Hartwick and NJIT are travel partners. That leaves ETSU who could have been a natural travel partner with Belmont, but the decision was to take a more northern school, Howard. I would imigine that Howard was chosen over Belmont for a few resesons.
    1. To convince Hartwick and NJIT to come along. One shorter conference away match.
    2. Howard might be more of a "W" on the schedule than Belmont.
    3. If Alabama A&M still had a team, adding Belmont would have made sense, then you have a 8 team conference with sort of travel partners. 7 teams is hard to schedule.
     
  2. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    The men were supposed to start in 2014, too. Pretty clearly not happening.
     
  3. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.hartwick....n-belt-02-11-14
    Silly!
     
  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I think Hartwick leaving the MAC is good for Akron as it allows them to drop a team with a low RPI and add another team from a big conference.

    Notre Dame, Northwestern, hell, Maryland could be added.

    BTW, if Pitt had any ambition they'd be phoning West Virginia and Akron to get themselves on the schedule as replacements for Hartwick. Anyone think that happens?
     
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  5. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uh, no.
     
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  6. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with your logic here. This will immediately free up a game for Akron to fill with a quality RPI opponent.

    I only have a problem the MAC's reasoning for forcing out Hartwick. No "multi-divisional" members? Really? Who do they think they are?
     
  7. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    How many schools do you think Luxbacher can fit onto his speed dial?

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. ZachTheZip

    ZachTheZip Member

    Jul 11, 2010
    Akron, OH
    Club:
    --other--
    The reasoning is shaky. Something fishy is going on, and it might be related to realignment in other sports. Lots of rumors flying that some combination of James Madison, Delaware, UMass, and Missouri State will be joining the MAC.

    Or it could just be some weird quirk coming from the conference leadership (read: the university presidents who vote on these things).
     
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  9. Mada

    Mada Member

    May 22, 2012
    There are some who believe the MAC dropped Hartwick because they inflicted the first MAC home defeat on Akron. ;)
    Or perhaps Hartwick's return to competitiveness was worrisome to lower ranked teams in the MAC
     
  10. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :sneaky:
    I deserve that.

    But that was not the first home MAC loss for Akron, just the first in many years. Probably the first victory at Akron for Hartwick.

    Had I my futbol druthers, I say keep Hartwick in the MAC and expel Buffalo.
     
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  11. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    FYI....

    Not a criticism, Rob, you're doing yeoman's work that is much-appreciated. But sometimes some changes fall through the cracks.
     
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  12. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Version 1.4
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    West Coast Conference
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    Portland
    San Diego
    San Francisco
    Santa Clara
    St. Mary's


    Western Athletic Conference
    Air Force
    CS Bakersfield
    Grand Canyon
    Houston Baptist
    Incarnate Word
    Missouri-KC
    San Jose State
    Seattle
    UNLV
    UVU
    UTPA - 2015
    Chicago St - They were supposed to add Men's soccer as part of their entry to the WAC. The women will start in 2014, but nothing about the men's team.
    NMSU
    - nothing announced but they are investigating possibility

    Updated with addition of the corrections noted above.
     
  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So does the Sun Belt get an automatic bid this year? If so, the proverbial bubble just got more crowded as there's one less at-large spot.
     
  14. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://sunbeltsports.org/news/2014/2/11/GENERAL_0211145401.aspx?path=general

    From the official release:
    The Sun Belt will conduct a championship at one of the six institutions with the winner earning an automatic qualifying bid to the NCAA Men's Soccer Championship. The championship format will see the top two teams from the regular season earning a bye into the tournament semifinals. A date and site for the championship will be announced in May.

    "We are looking forward to having an automatic qualifier in the sport to represent us in the NCAA postseason," said Benson. "And we are optimistic at the possibility of sending multiple teams to the tournament field each year."
     
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  15. UofIneedssoccer

    Nov 3, 2009
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    If you ever go to Chicago State you will understand why. I only see foreign players going to that school so they can get into the states.
     
  16. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  17. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    I'm pretty sure that's more credit than I deserve. :p
     
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  18. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope, I am sure that you are the reason they hired him!
     
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  19. OverseasView

    OverseasView Member+

    Olympique Lyonnais
    France
    Feb 3, 2013
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Hararea for President........

    Of the FIFA :p:laugh:
     
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  20. No shinguards

    No shinguards Member

    Mar 21, 2008
    The Moon
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glad to see they went the tourney route.. and not conference winner!;)
     
  21. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. jdgaucho

    jdgaucho Member

    Jan 8, 2012
    San Diego
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  23. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
  24. jeffconn

    jeffconn Member

    Jul 25, 2004
    Norfolk, VA, USA
    Club:
    Hampton Roads Piranhas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the present, the Sun Belt, the Southern, Pac 12, and MAC are all at the minimum number of teams to get a tourney bid (6). And the Southern is the only conference of the 4 that doesn't use associate members to get up to the minimum. We could have a league drop men's soccer if just one full member or associate leaves. So, how many years until one of those 4 conferences loses men's soccer?
     
  25. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Version 2.0
    America East
    Albany
    Binghamton
    Hartford
    Mass-Lowell
    New Hampshire
    Stony Brook
    UMBC
    Vermont

    American Athletic
    Central Florida
    Cincinnati
    Connecticut
    Memphis
    South Florida
    Southern Methodist
    Temple
    Tulsa

    Atlantic 10
    Davidson
    Dayton
    Duquesne
    Fordham
    George Washington
    La Salle
    Massachusetts
    Rhode Island
    Saint Joseph's
    Saint Louis
    St. Bonaventure
    Virginia Commonwealth

    Atlantic Coast Conference
    Boston College
    Clemson
    Duke
    Louisville
    NC State
    North Carolina
    Notre Dame
    Pittsburgh
    Syracuse
    Virginia
    Virginia Tech
    Wake Forest


    Atlantic Sun Conference
    Florida Gulf Coast
    Jacksonville
    Lipscomb
    Northern Kentucky
    North Florida
    Stetson
    South Carolina-Upstate

    Big East Conference
    Butler
    Creighton
    DePaul
    Georgetown
    Marquette
    Providence
    Seton Hall
    St. John's
    Villanova
    Xavier

    Big South Conference
    Campbell
    Coastal Carolina
    Gardner Webb
    High Point
    Liberty
    Longwood
    Presbyterian College
    Radford
    UNC Ashville
    Winthrop

    Big Ten
    Indiana
    Maryland
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Northwestern
    Ohio State
    Penn State
    Rutgers
    Wisconsin

    Big West Conference
    Cal Poly - SLO
    CS Fullerton
    CS Northridge
    UC Davis
    UC Irvine
    UC Riverside
    UC Santa Barbara
    Sacramento State

    Colonial Athletic Association
    College of Charleston
    College of William and Mary
    Delaware
    Drexel
    Elon
    Hofstra
    James Madison
    Northeastern
    UNC Wilmington

    Conference USA
    Alabama-Birmingham
    UNC Charlotte
    Florida Atlantic
    Florida International
    Kentucky
    Marshall
    New Mexico
    Old Dominion
    South Carolina


    Horizon League
    Belmont
    Cleveland State
    Detroit
    Green Bay
    Milwaukee
    Oakland
    UIC
    Valparaiso
    Wright State

    Ivy Group
    Brown
    Columbia
    Cornell
    Dartmouth
    Harvard
    Penn
    Princeton
    Yale

    Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
    Canisius
    Fairfield
    Iona
    Manhattan
    Marist
    Monmouth
    Niagara
    Quinnipiac
    Rider
    Siena
    St. Peter's

    Mid-American Conference
    Akron
    Bowling Green
    Buffalo
    Northern Illinois
    West Virginia
    Western Michigan

    Missouri Valley Conference
    Bradley
    Central Arkansas
    Drake
    Evansville
    Loyola-Illinois
    Missouri State
    SIU Edwardsville

    Northeast Conference
    Bryant
    Central Connecticut
    Fairleigh Dickinson
    Long Island-Brooklyn
    Robert Morris
    Sacred Heart
    St. Francis (NY)
    St. Francis (PA)

    Pac 12
    California
    Oregon State
    San Diego State
    Stanford
    UC Los Angeles
    Washington

    Patriot League
    American
    Army
    Boston University
    Bucknell
    Colgate
    Holy Cross
    Lafayette
    Lehigh
    Loyola (MD)
    Navy

    Southern Conference
    East Tennessee St
    Furman
    Mercer
    UNC Greensboro
    VMI
    Wofford

    Summit League
    Denver
    Eastern Illinois
    IPFW
    IUPUI
    Nebraska-Omaha
    Oral Roberts
    Western Illinois

    Sun Belt
    Georgia State
    Georgia Southern
    Appalachian State
    Howard
    NJIT
    Hartwick


    West Coast Conference
    Gonzaga
    Loyola Marymount
    Pacific
    Portland
    San Diego
    San Francisco
    Santa Clara
    St. Mary's


    Western Athletic Conference
    Air Force
    CS Bakersfield
    Grand Canyon
    Houston Baptist
    Incarnate Word
    Missouri-KC
    San Jose State
    Seattle
    UNLV
    UVU
    UTPA - 2015
    Chicago St - They were supposed to add Men's soccer as part of their entry to the WAC. The women will start in 2014, but nothing about the men's team.
    NMSU
    - nothing announced but they are investigating possibility

    Updated with addition of the addition of Belmont to the Horizon.
     

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