2014 Yuya Osako @ TSV 1860 München (GER) Thread [R]

White/Blue_since1860 · Jan 6, 2014

Dax said: ↑

yeah, would be nice. I remember Dortmund fans replicating Shinji's chant at the stadium and he appreciated. Especially for a new player, it could help.
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Ill do my best. I think he already has the fans support and hearts.

It's not like playing at Freiburg as 3rd choice.

zdrstvte · Jan 6, 2014

White/Blue_since1860 said: ↑

Hoppenheim e.g. 01/16
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You mean Hoffenheim? Or is this a lower league team?

White/Blue_since1860 · Jan 6, 2014

zdrstvte said: ↑

You mean Hoffenheim? Or is this a lower league team?
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It is Hoffenheim. But Dietmar Hopp is the SAP bilionaire who thought it would be a great idea to put up a Buli team in the middle of nowhere.

zdrstvte · Jan 6, 2014

White/Blue_since1860 said: ↑

It is Hoffenheim. But Dietmar Hopp is the SAP bilionaire who thought it would be a great idea to put up a Buli team in the middle of nowhere.
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I always wondered why they were based in such a small town. Thanks for that.

zdrstvte · Jan 6, 2014

naopon · Jan 6, 2014

zdrstvte said: ↑

I always wondered why they were based in such a small town. Thanks for that.
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There's a fun primer here: https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/fabian-johnson-87-hoffenheim.156898/page-50

LoewenBoy · Jan 6, 2014

zdrstvte said: ↑

Probably friendlies.
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Hoppenheim, Pauli and FSV Frankfurt this month. Last two are in Turkey.

Appears Osako had a meeting with the club leaders briefly at his hotel but retired early. A report from the hotel said that he, Funkel and team captain Vallori met briefly. Nothing on what was said...they were away from most people at that time.

Saku² · Jan 6, 2014

I hope everybody dies.

Dax · Jan 6, 2014

zdrstvte · Jan 6, 2014

Blue_san and saku right now

Clad · Jan 6, 2014

Where can i watch 2 bundesliga tsv matches online?

zdrstvte · Jan 6, 2014

Clad said: ↑

Where can i watch 2 bundesliga tsv matches online?
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Any random streaming site would show them.

SkyBundesliga shows most matches.

LoewenBoy · Jan 6, 2014

Clad said: ↑

Where can i watch 2 bundesliga tsv matches online?
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zdrstvte said: ↑

Any random streaming site would show them.

SkyBundesliga shows most matches.
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Hopefully the 1860 pay TV stream will come back next season and you can sign up online to watch on demand.

naopon · Jan 6, 2014

A Japanese journalist with some affinity for 60 introduces the club and shares some amusing anecdotes.
http://bylines.news.yahoo.co.jp/sugiyamatakashi/20140106-00031307/

Near Marienplatz in the center of München, there is a 1860 fan shop on a small street. Across the street is also a Bayern fan shop - well the rest of the world probably sees it the other way around.
Last October I was at the store, when the manager (a man around 70) peered at me funny, as if he was wondering why a random Asian tourist would bother to shop here. All of the tourists on the street carry red Bayern shopping bags, while the 1860 shop is frequented by locals. In fact, an immigration employee at the Munich airport asked me: "why are you wearing a 'Sechzig' shirt, of all things?"

(goes on to summarize club history and current situation, specifically the failure of Lauth and others to score goals)

Until now, the Asian guy had to answer at passport control as follows:
"60 is a great club. I was in the Olympiastadion 15 years ago, when they defeated Borussia Dortmund, the defending Intercontinental Cup champs!"
The employee only responded, "That was a long time ago," while the guy working the next booth snickered. It's up to Osako to ensure that this writer and the "other Munich club" start receiving proper respect!
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Dax · Jan 6, 2014

http://www.nikkansports.com/soccer/news/p-sc-tp1-20140107-1240586.html

Osako basically taking the opposite approach: "If you don't challenge yourself, you don't grow. The World Cup is coming, I thought that placing myself in an harder environment would help me to grow"

Final fee seems to be around 500 000€, should play alone forward in 1860.

Gordon1995 · Jan 6, 2014

LoewenBoy said: ↑

I have followed the Bundesliga and German football for a long while. Freiburg (SCF) is a smaller market than Muenchen, even though Freiburg is playing in the Bundesliga currently. SCF has some decent young players on their current side. They appear to be okay up front though I am sure Osako could help them. They might have to get rid of a player or two if they even had wanted to bring him on. Reading through several of the German websites it appears the sources linking Osako with SCF were not very strong.

Regardless of whether he plays in the 1.BL or 2.BL he will get visibility. Many, many players move each year up and down based on their performance. Making a top team in the 1.BL is very tough for anybody. Give it time and let's see how he plays. German teams are VERY conservative about acquiring players. Unless their name is Ribery or Schweinsteiger or Lewandowski or Reus, teams want to see how players can play in Germany before taking any further chances on them.
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If Kagawa can do it, i expect Osako to do the same too.

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First of all: sorry, who the heck cares about the wage? I mean it's nice and all but he's not going to play in Europe to increase his wage. There is 0% chance he's going back to Kashima unless he stops getting play time anyway.
Second: it's not a waste, because if he doesn't get it in 3, 4 years, then it means he's not good enough, it's not about luck at all.
The only thing we can say for sure is that he has more chances to get that "offer from clubs in the first division" while he's already playing in Europe than from the JLeague.
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Wages are very important, Honda got a pay rise moving to Milan. And i am talking about a hypotetical situation whereby HE DOES NOT get any offers from 1ST DIVISON clubs from the top 5 leagues.

Blue-San · Jan 7, 2014

Dax said: ↑

http://www.nikkansports.com/soccer/news/p-sc-tp1-20140107-1240586.html

Osako basically taking the opposite approach: "If you don't challenge yourself, you don't grow. The World Cup is coming, I thought that placing myself in an harder environment would help me to grow"

Final fee seems to be around 500 000€, should play alone forward in 1860.
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I like his attitude and I just hope it works for his and JNT sake.

naopon · Jan 7, 2014

Osako will wear the #18 shirt.

http://www.tsv1860.de/aktuell/news/youkoso-yuya-osako-wird-ein-loewe

naopon · Jan 7, 2014

lol

Random coincidence, but I just found out that Bobby Wood is half Japanese. Maybe Osako can bring him some anime.

naopon · Jan 7, 2014

Press conference live feed
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/1860-spieler-präsentation

naopon · Jan 7, 2014

Keren · Jan 7, 2014

He seems to don't know where to put his hands xD Not very comfortable.

LoewenBoy · Jan 7, 2014

Keren said: ↑

He seems to don't know where to put his hands xD Not very comfortable.
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He's young and in a foreign land. I am sure he's finding it tough to acclimate. He'll settle down soon.

Keren · Jan 7, 2014

Hope so.

LoewenBoy · Jan 7, 2014

Keren said: ↑

Hope so.
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It's up to him. München has a very large and accepting Japanese community. Across Germany there are also many Japanese. The 1860 fans will welcome him for sure. Food-wise he can get nearly everything he can get in Japan...probably cheaper. The weather may be an issue but looking at Kashima's current weather it seems similar to München.

So unless he's got Donovan Syndrome he should have everything he needs to make himself feel at home.

(Donovan Syndrome is named after US footballer Landon Donovan. It is characterized by the inability to spend long amounts of time away from one's home country - despite being compensated well for it - due to an umbilical chord which was never severed at birth).