Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread You never know what can happen in two years. From the U-17's I like Kellen Gulley, Acosta and Mobi Fehr. Fehr I think could start or see a lot of PT. If I were to rate the best players on the squad right now it would be: Gil Renken Salgado Nichloas Gaitan Fabian Huerzeler Packwood Zach Pfeffer not sure about the rest of the guys in Germany until I see them
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Essentially, if you compare this to where we were in 2009 at this time with that U-20 team...this looks a lot better. Especially considering you can already draw up a good back line out of pros, you have a core in the midfield of talented players you can build around over the cycle, and a striker with size and skill who can also play a large part.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Remember hwo everyone was bashing the u17 team for winning qualifying whilst not playing great? Good times. Question Does K Hoyos want to play for us or is he like his brother?
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Speaking of Ocegueda, here's an interview at http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=content&id=7589
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Everything I am hearing about Luis Gil early this season is that he is on the brink. If he were not playing for Real Salt Lake, he would be getting big minutes on most other teams in the league.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread I think Gil is the consensus best domestic player in his age group so he's probably as close to a lock as you can get.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread The one time I saw him last year and recently I came away highly impressed. His first touch and passing is sublime to say the least. He connects on all his passes and i can't recall him losing the ball once...That's all i can say, I don't want to over-hype him.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread agreed. Is it possible for teams to loan players to other teams in MLS? for instance watching Vancouver yesterday i know they could benefit from Gil.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Future lineup GK Cropper Ocegueda Packwood Brooks Potts Gil Renken Fabian H Salgado Oliver Koroma That's if Rongen could use in his 4 3 3 if he is retained.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread As is becoming the norm for US teams, on paper the strength of this group is the midfield. Of course it's extremely early, but right now Gil - Renken - Hürzeler is very promising. Up front might be a bit thin beyond Salgado, but two years is a long time in the youth world.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread While we would all love to see Gil getting first team action, I think at this stage it's more beneficial for him to remain in -- by far -- the best possible team in RSL. I say that as genuine neutral. Kreis isn't just a good coach, he has them playing the way that will benefit Gil the most. Possession, on the floor, passing. The added benefit of practicing alongside two of the best midfielders in MLS in Beckerman and Morales is huge. Not to mention being well away from the big city spotlight. For a very long time, I would have always preferred a young US talent to go abroad as soon as possible. Strictly in terms of my own perception of the league, it speaks volumes that my position on that is changing somewhat. Now, if Wenger is still interested when Gil turns 18...
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Goal.com just had an article interviewing the Sunil Gulati about the u-20 failure he didn't say either way that Rongen would be coming back but did say he won't judge a program after one game. He did praise his work in identifying players. Well see what happens. The article did say the youth national teams need to play more competitive matches and less friendlies that better prepare you for that environment. I definitely agree with that, the Milk cup is simply not enough. The U-17's and U-20's need to be more involved tournaments and matchs that mean something. When would this cycle next start?
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread I don't know how many youth tournaments are available. In addition to the Milk Cup there was also the Copa Chivas, the Dallas Cup, the one in Holland, the one in Peru, the one in Atlanta. That's six tournaments in a cycle that was just 15 months There isn't going to be that many "meaningful" tournaments that you will be able to get professional players assembled for. The more professional U20 players we have that are important to their clubs, the less amount of time the team will be together. It can't start until after the U17 World Cup at the earliest. The last cycle began in December 2009, but that was because both the U20 and U17 World Cups were unusually late. I wouldn't be surprised to see a camp maybe in August. It will be much earlier than December. The program won't be inactive for nine months
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Well I was wrong It looks like the first U20 camp of the 2013 cycle will be next month in France. Rongen is coaching this camp
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Are they playing against France? Do you think the roster will have top choice players like Hurzeler and Brooks, or will it looks more like the u18 rosters?
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread If I were to GUESS I would say it would have guys like Ocegueda Cunningham Cropper Packwood Gil Brooks Hurzeler
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Since he's at Cologne instead of Bradenton, do you think Matthew Dunn could be called in? Unless the U-17's also have a tourney during that time. Trophy Case mentioned that Renken could be called in as well.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Renken maybe. But players with the U17 WC team probably won't join the U20s until after the WC. Just a guess on my part
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Might as well get the ball rolling. Seriously, Rongen's camp callups at the start of new cycles are always interesting. He'll uncover at least one player at this camp that I've never heard of.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread I agree about some of youth players staying state side. Gil is in a perfect place. This year Najar is fighting for PT after being one of the better players at DCU last year and even today Agudelo is not in the first 11. This is just an indication, to me, of the league getting deeper, and that a long with the reserve league being an added bonus. Plus it's much easier to follow these guys when they're not YA's.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread ...and honestly, MLS has a higher motivation to develop American players than European clubs, where they are just another player. The better MLS gets, the better it is for our players.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Here is a stab at the roster http://www.matchfitusa.com/2011/04/looking-way-ahead-2013-u-20-national.html Can't really argue that the major cornerstone of the team is going to be the Renken-Hurzeler-Gil midfield and Salgado up top. No points for the obvious, haha.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread Look for Brooks and Cunningham to get major minutes too, they both played alot against France. Cropper started and played the whole game in a tie too. Looks like a good foundation for 2013 and there is always kids who come out of nowwhere like Gatt and Doyle. Do like the midfield of Hertzler, Renken, Gil, and throw in a Alejandro Guido. That's a solid midfield.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread ... and from all the domestic U18s, plying their trade in DAs and elsewhere, we should uncover a few more who will become U20 mainstays. I'm fairly certain that a few of those on the Lisbon Tournament roster will (beyond the '93s that we've discussed, like Gil) become U20 regulars.
Re: 2013 U-20 World Cup Roster Thread A prospect to convince to join this team in 2013, would probably be Junior Ebot-Etchi. started racking up game-time with the Hertha Berlin U-17 this year as a 14-year old.