2013 Transfer rumors!!!

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by benni..., Sep 28, 2012.

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  1. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Will need to see him more to see if he can play that role for us and not be another Young.
     
  2. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I guess this is now about ambition and direction, do we want to compete or not.
     
  3. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    All we're left with as fans are hopes, prayers and wishes. ;)
     
  4. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Mostly prayers and wishes, we are heading Arsenal's direction.
     
  5. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Fortunately Arsenal are heading in an even worse direction.
     
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  6. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    They could easily not get 4th, how many teams are separated by a point or two, ridiculous table, everybody beating up everybody.
     
  7. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    The league has gotten more competitive.
     
  8. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Why won't you want Fischer and Larsson ?

    Fischer seems to be someone we are linked to time and again, and a big talent so could be plausible.
     
  9. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nope teams are not all that.
     
  10. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    I wonder how "competitive" the league would be with 04 Arsenal, 05 Chelsea, or 08 United in it.
     
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  11. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    How many points did each of those teams have at this stage?

    Anyways, talking about overall quality of 20 teams. Not the quality of the top teams only...
     
  12. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    United 07-08: 30
    Arsenal 03-04: 33
    Chelsea 04-05: 32
     
  13. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    2007-08 was the peak of competitiveness of the Prem when all 4 teams reached the last 8 (and were only eliminated by each other) in the CL; and in the UEFA cup Everton topped a group containing Zenit while Bolton drew away at Bayern.

    Any of the former 4 would stroll to the league now.
     
  14. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    How the top teams did in Europe has only a small impact in terms of the competitiveness of the league internally as a whole.

    Actually, top teams all falling off a bit makes the league more competitive as the bottom 10 teams have certainly improved. Looking at the bottom 5 teams in the table they have quite a bit of talent there. The difference is considerable compared to even the Derby Counties, Birmingham's of 2007/08 and even more compared to Wolves, Leicester City and other bottom 10 teams in 2003/04.
     
  15. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    So not a massive difference(if any), then.
     
  16. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    wayne? box to box?
     
  17. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    City?
     
  18. Bronaldo

    Bronaldo Red Card

    Apr 8, 2007
    Canada
    gastric bypass.
     
  19. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Put Rooney there instead of Nani and play a narrow 4-2-3-1 ?

    Though will mean quite a bit of change from our system under Fergie.
     
  20. Diable Rouge

    Diable Rouge Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    wow, isco's release clause can apparently be activated for only L17 m. we'd be mental not to do so albeit we'd still prolly lose him to city on wages.
     
  21. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
  22. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Getting Taarabt when we don't have patience for Nani would be silly. I do think that some of the Nani business is down to him wanting to be paid what he's worth. He's not half a Rooney, that's not a good reflection of his talent or his end product.

    I do think that if we lose Nani, as Syed has been saying, we need to replace him with 2 players. I think Young can rediscover his form, but he's a specific type of winger who was a good buy when we were a wing-dominant team with Rooney and Hernandez getting a lot of minutes as twin strikers. Given that isn't how we're playing moving forward, it makes little sense to expect the same kind of performance from Young.

    However, given our change, he's the guy who will suffer the most. He's got to find a new way to contribute to the team and quickly, but I think as a third or fourth choice winger, who gets starts when we rotate for rest/injury and minutes when we need to defend a lead or press an advantage, he's fine.

    We cannot continue to evaluate him based on his fee/salary, it isn't as though he's making Rooney money or that he cost Carroll money on the transfer. If we could move him, I'd be okay with it, but I don't see it happening.

    We clearly need at least 1 winger and I'd love if we kept Nani, but something's going to have to give and I'm not sure what will.
     
  23. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    The only player in the squad who's worth half a Rooney is Rooney.
     
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  24. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    I'm not sure what to feel about Taarabt to be honest.

    His talent is obvious, but he's also an obvious headcase and he does try to force things on the pitch too much at times.
     
  25. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    In the days of old, forcing things too much (on the pitch) was a good thing as far as United were concerned. HBA would be a better bet. A tad more restrained and better at using his pace/balance. Obviously also an injury and cost concern. But anyone with close to Nani's ability is going to cost us almost as much as his wage demands and certainly as much as he cost when we bought him.
     

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