2013 Superdraft

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by COMtnGuy, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. spot

    spot Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Centennial
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks. I probably saw the accursed name of Ives, and stopped reading.

    He sounds like a project, or the most singular libero ever.
     
  2. Big Chil in Denver

    Sep 10, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Big Chil in Denver

    Sep 10, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In case you wanted to know, Ives has the Rapids taking DeShorn Brown F, Emery Welshman F, and Marc Cintron LW. No CB's. This would not be a bad haul, though. Ives commented that both Welshman and Cintron looked good today, so who knows? They may climb the board.

    On the Rapids' website, Bravo said. "Our thought process is, let's go with the best available player at this point because we're going to need depth at all positions."

    The Rapids would have to add defensive depth from elsewhere, maybe in the supplemental draft, but it seems supplemental draft players rarely make their teams.
     
  4. Soaker888

    Soaker888 Member+

    Feb 21, 2012
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
  5. Big Chil in Denver

    Sep 10, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's evolving. Ashton Bennet was picked at #9, whereas before he was way down the list. The most interesting mocks will be post-combine.
     
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  6. 22SteveD

    22SteveD Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2011
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I wouldn't pay attention to anything until post combines ones come out. Guessing the 2nd round is pointless no matter when you do it.
     
  7. 22SteveD

    22SteveD Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2011
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Speed agility test top 5. LW Blake Smith looks intriguing for 2nd rnd pick. Top 5 speed and agility.

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/superdraft...ne-who-turned-heads-speed-agility-power-tests

    SPEED: 30-meter sprint
    1. Don Anding (Northeastern) 4.04 seconds
    2. Erik Hurtado (Santa Clara) 4.09 seconds
    3. Blake Smith (New Mexico) 4.11 seconds
    4. Kekuta Manneh (Austin Aztex) 4.17 seconds
    5. Nico Clavijo (unattached) 4.18 seconds

    AGILITY: 5-10-5
    1. Deshorn Brown (Central Florida) 3.96 secs
    2. Don Anding (Northeastern) 4.08 seconds
    3. Blake Smith (New Mexico) 4.10 seconds
    4. Tommy Muller (Georgetown) 4.11 seconds
    5. Ian Christianson (Georgetown) 4.14 seconds

    POWER: Vertical Jump
    1. Scott Goodwin (North Carolina) 32.5 inches
    2. T.J. Nelson (Southern Methodist) 31.5 inches
    3. Erik Hurtado (Santa Clara) 31 inches
    Dylan Remick (Santa Clara) 31 inches
    Blake Smith (New Mexico) 31 inches
     
  8. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Is Nico Clavijo the answer to a trivia question?
     
  9. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In "Insites" I neglected Blake in my brief review of midfielders. Apparently, in contrast to Match Day #1 he was very solid today. One of the top 5-8 midfielders. In addition to his obvious physical prowess he was solid technically & tactically.
     
  10. tonhtubra

    tonhtubra Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    Fort Collins, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. Big Chil in Denver

    Sep 10, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zavaleta - a resounding yes. Hurtada no @ #6. Hurtado is a good player who has shown well at Combine. He is strong & uses his muscle to his advantage, good speed but not a sprinter. Could be a top 15 pick but a real stretch at #6.
     
  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's the world on Dylan Tucker-Ganges? I'd love to see a Husky on the Rapids again (Ty Harden was our last IIRC).
     
  14. 22SteveD

    22SteveD Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2011
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3 rated CB, but zavaleta was listed as forward, not sure we're he falls CB wise.

    Guess we will see what Rapids think about D, we seem to still have a tremendous need there, IMO.
     
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  15. WJMarx

    WJMarx BigSoccer Supporter

    May 5, 2003
    Boulder, CO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thus far he has had the advantage playing alongside of Farrell but he has looked good. Big, strong & comfortable with the ball at his feet he is not a super athlete. Good positional sense with adequate speed. I would grab him at #25 but strongly doubt he will be available then.
     
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  16. fischerw

    fischerw Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    Joplin, MO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. tonhtubra

    tonhtubra Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    Fort Collins, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He also said today that Toronto was close to signing former SKC d-mid Julio Cesar. Could that be a bargaining chip Toronto is playing? Seems unlikely they would sign him and also make a trade for Larentowicz, or is that not as crazy as it seems to me.
     
  18. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    Ives's article leans more towards the "they won't trade Larentowicz to move up to #1" angle for the reason you note (plus they have Frings). Though it does say they're shopping Jeff.
     
  19. tonhtubra

    tonhtubra Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    Fort Collins, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there really a need to trade for #1? After putting this out along with all of their declarations that they want mexican-american players it is basically a lock that Chivas will pick Carlos Alvarez or Mikey Lopez. (Boy, would that be an incredible ruse though if they were actually just leading people astray and are planning on one of the defenders the whole time. Good thing their dysfunctionality is real.) So you let Toronto get the hype of #1 overall and pick their guy, which many are saying is Farrell. Chivas picks Carlos Alvarez. And you trade for the #3 pick and still get your guy Zimmerman. If we can't work a trade with them, then we might be kissing a Def good-bye at #6 because it seems Zavaleta is the only other defender worthy of going that high, but there is a good chance New England or Vancouver would take him it sounds like. Maybe it isn't the end of the world to not get one of those three, but it is starting to seem like the club has been counting on that this offseason considering the lack of any additional signings in Defense since Calderon.

    Maybe you can trade Chivas for #2, but it seems like they have made up their mind and Chelis doesn't want to trade.
     
  20. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only thing worse the news coverage of MLS is the talent scouting. I would take all of this with a grain of salt. These same talking heads have seldom hit the mark about Rapids, why should they start now.

    Besides any team watching video of JL would see the same think we did. He doesn't have ability to be sole D-mid at MLS level.

    Thursday we will know and might have a bit of insight into what FO thinks team needs are.
     
  21. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heck, MLSoccer.com is doing a "Team by Team Superdraft preview" guess which team is among the handful with none submitted yet?
     
  22. Matt117

    Matt117 Member

    Oct 3, 2012
    Tempe, AZ
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only player that seems worth trading up for is Farrell. I don't think the Rapids should trade JL unless it is a great deal. JL and allocation money/draft pick(s) for Farrell would be a great deal. Otherwise, I would stay put and hope Zimmerman, D. Brown, or maybe Manneh falls to 6.

    Chelis has said Chivas will take Alvarez. And Toronto just signed Julio Ceasar, in addtion to already having Frings. That seems to suggest neither of those teams would want to trade for JL, who seems to be the only player the Rapids' might trade that anyone else would want. I think the Rapids should just stay at 6 rather than trade up and pick Zimmerman too high.
     
  23. tonhtubra

    tonhtubra Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    Fort Collins, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps a motivation for listening to Millionarios about Castrillon is to acquire more money to use in a trade?

    From all accounts Zimmerman and Farrell are choices 1a and 1b. It stinks that Zimmerman hasn't been able to participate at combine. If they really are equal, I would prefer Zimmerman due to his size (6'3") compared to Farrell (5'11"). The Rapids could use some height along the back line when we face teams like San Jose with Gordon and Lenhart.
     
  24. kucsdat

    kucsdat Member

    Jul 12, 2012
  25. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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