2013 Caspian Cup in Azerbaijan

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Germerica, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    I don't get caught up in pro/non-pro. Some MLS academies are garbage and just exist for show. Plus quite a few of these guys will be overseas by the time their U20 cycle rolls around in 2016-17.
     
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  2. pwip

    pwip Member

    Jul 10, 2004
    Dallas
    Here's USSF development strategy. Get your best players and send them to international tournaments. Hope they get a contract overseas because the domestic option is not cutting it right now.
     
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  3. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    We need to fix this and start to make sure professional academies fix their issues.
     
  4. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    They will on their own on e these players teams get some transfer fees overseas.
     
  5. Dvs916

    Dvs916 New Member

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Well sounds like first line up linked up well. If it aont broke don't fix it
     
  6. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    ????
     
  7. soccerndo

    soccerndo Member

    Jan 16, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Yup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........
     
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  8. Dvs916

    Dvs916 New Member

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    We there to win not travel to hand our playing time. No time for experiments
     
  9. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say pretty much any U16 match is time for experiments. These kids are part of the next U18 cycle, which only exists to keep kids in the program that will be part of the next U20 cycle. In other words, these kids wont play meaningful national team matches for the better part of the next four years. Every kid that gets called to travel to Azerbaijan should get to play when there is nothing at stake.
     
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  10. Dvs916

    Dvs916 New Member

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Its that mental state our national team goes with and we sit there and scratch our heads wondering why we lose and don't win shit
     
  11. Dvs916

    Dvs916 New Member

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    At any level the men's side same now the women's side we have success cause they play to win
     
  12. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Guiseppe Rossi was bought for 10 millions Euros recently, at one point he was with ManU and the sold him for 6 m.

    Imagine an USSDA player getting "poached" by a foreign club and then flipped for millions like Rossi was. The corresponding MLS academy not seeing a dime would change their tune very fast in regards to development.
     
  13. Dvs916

    Dvs916 New Member

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Experiment at our domestic camps, you think those countrys have experment squads out there no! But your best out there
     
  14. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, the prestigious U16 Caspian Cup is not time for experiments! We need to win that silverware goddammit!
     
  15. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Its u17 brah
     
  16. Dvs916

    Dvs916 New Member

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    What ever age we always get compared to mexico and they win, why because they don't try to change the players talent here in the U.S. system they change the players talents to fit the U.S system. And it ain't a winning system we are killing the kids natural talent they come in to the national system with.
     
  17. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    You're giving an example of a post I didn't understand. If you could restate your original post, it was confusing.
     
  18. Rebaño_Sagrado

    Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Home
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That was the intended meaning of my original post.
     
  19. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Or any US youth team for that matter.
     
  20. Dvs916

    Dvs916 New Member

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    well not gonna get very many players from U.S to be poached cause we kill there talent running them through residency
     
  21. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Because we all know that the only way to play for the full national team is to be one of the 40 17 yr olds that go to residency.
     
  22. thewanderer9520

    May 28, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid

    Well, no offense to Richie Williams lovers, but Cabrera got better results.
     
  23. thewanderer9520

    May 28, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid

    Haha. Brazil failed to qualify for this last U20 WC. If youth tournaments were the gauge for senior success, the Africans would have won the world cup a long time ago.

    And as I have previously stated, statistically the U20 level(and not even the U23 level)graduates the most players to the senior national teams world wide.
     
  24. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope. The player's desire to win at that age needs to be there. The coaches need to see the bigger picture. And also no, that isn't the reason we don't win. We don't win because we don't develop world class talent or have the tacticians to use it if it is developing. Our mental state is actually our program's biggest strength, and is the only reason we overachieve with regularity.
     

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