2013-2014 Columbus Crew Offseason Roster Thread

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  1. jschwarz

    jschwarz Member

    Apr 6, 2004
    Cincinnati, OH
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would love to see Cooper in Columbus but wouldn't pay $350k. I'm thinking more like $275K. I'd take him over Arrieta in a heartbeat. I prefer a forward with size and strength like Cooper. I have no clue though what kind of demand there would be for his services or what his value really is.
     
  2. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You get the player's MLS rights if you do. Even if he doesn't sign.
     
  3. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Cooper's size and strength would pair fairly well with Oduro's speed. But like a lot of others here, I wouldn't pay him that much. Personally, I'd pay him up to whatever we ended up paying Oduro. Dom is more valuable
     
  4. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I lost all faith in Cooper after he mucked up my Yanks Abroad faith in him at 1860

    Paging @kgilbert78
     
  5. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who on that re-entry list has Gaven like abilities? Is there a right midfielder on there?
     
  6. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 2008
    NEO
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'd try to target Rolfe if he's still available next round. He's from Kettering and has a couple years left in the tank. He's also worked with Oduro.
     
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  7. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 2008
    NEO
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Also, I'm sure there's an easy answer for this: Why isn't Andy Gruenebaum in the re-entry draft. Requirements state:

    Players who are at least 30 years old with a minimum of eight years of MLS experience who are out of contract and whose club does not wish to re-sign them (available for at least 105% of their 2013 salary).

    He arrived to the Crew in 2006. Doesn't that make 8 seasons?
     
  8. jschwarz

    jschwarz Member

    Apr 6, 2004
    Cincinnati, OH
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What kind of money do you think Rolfe will require?
     
  9. hardhead

    hardhead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 2008
    NEO
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    No idea what he requires. He was on 225k last year. I'd say he's worth 180-200k (Gaven's range).
     
  10. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone think that some of the Dom Oduro $ may be getting paid directly out of the Papa John's sponsorship money?
     
  11. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not possible. It all has to go towards the cap. And he gets paid by the local chain conglomerate who sponsor us for his ad work.
     
  12. Kayak

    Kayak Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Columbus
    Players can remove themselves from the list if they'd prefer to continue to negotiate with their current team. This draft is an option to get as much money as a player can without opening full free agency but players can't be forced away from their current team.
     
  13. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's getting $325 plus bonuses right now. Probably not a first round pick.
    Not easy to win a spot in Germany--for reasons that do not always have something to do with playing skill. The surprising Yanks Abroad is Matt Taylor. Sure he's mostly been in the third division--but I'll bet he makes more than he would in MLS. And he scores.
     
  14. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Sean Franklin in the first round would me nice. He is currently at $46k I wouldn't think it would be all that higher. $80 or $90? There are a lot of nice names on the list that would be worth looking at in the second round.
     
  15. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would take Franklin for 80-90. I think he could be a starter for us.
     
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  16. SourCream&OnionUtd

    Nov 19, 1998
    Franklin's the highest paid RB in the league. Huge waste of cash, that's why il Bruce gave Delagarza an audition at RB this summer and pushed Franklin into midfield. Just no point having such an expensive fullback in this league.
     
  17. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Try $225K--you must have looked at the wrong line. Salary info is here: http://www.mlsplayers.org/salary_info.html
     
  18. Big Strong Patrick

    Big Strong Patrick That's so Gaven

    Dec 9, 2004
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was wondering that too BSP! He just posted on twitter that he will wear #8 next year.
     
  19. CrewV Man

    CrewV Man Member+

    Aug 18, 2011
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need a wing midfielder. Can you image Oduro on one side and Zakuani on the other? Speed! His base is $135k, but his guaranteed goes up to $233k. I wonder what that is all about.
    Mauro Rosales for $200k? Could he be a CAM to work between Higuain and Trapp?

    Deal of the draft looks like Brandon Barklage for $65k. Good tough, right back for near nothing.

    The other guys seem really expensive base salary for their contribution.
    Sean Franklin - $225k
    Chris Rolfe - $225k
    Bobby Boswell - $220k
    Bobby Convey - $200k
    Logan Pause - $180k
    Kevin Alston - $145k - Really like Alston but seems high.
    Justin Braun - $112k
     
  20. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are players and salaries. There are couple of guys priced right and several overpriced..hence their clubs declining options.

    Chicago Fire
    M Corben Bone ($49,000.00, option declined)
    D Shaun Francis ($46,500.00, option declined)
    M Joel Lindpere ($205,000.00, option declined)
    F Daniel Paladini ($91,103.25, option declined)
    M Logan Pause ($197,833.33, option declined)
    M Chris Rolfe ($248,333.33, option declined)
    F Maicon Santos ($164,433.33, option declined)
    M Wells Thompson ($113,125.00, out of contract)
    M Michael Videira ($47,125.00, option declined)


    Chivas USA
    D Ante Jazic ($132,187.50, out of contract)
    D Steve Purdy ($80,004.00, option declined)
    M Josue Soto ($35,125.00, option declined)


    Colorado Rapids
    GK Steward Ceus ($70,333.33, option declined)
    M Brian Mullan ($170,335.00, option declined)
    D Jamie Smith ($46,500.00, option declined)


    Columbus Crew
    D Danny O’Rourke ($175,000.00, option declined)
    M Konrad Warzycha ($46,500.00, option declined)


    D.C. United
    M Dwayne De Rosario ($645,333.33, option declined)
    D James Riley ($145,750.00, option declined)
    F Carlos Ruiz ($75,000.00, option declined)
    M Marcelo Saragosa ($110,000.00, option declined)
    M John Thorrington ($150,000.00, option declined)
    D Daniel Woolard (option declined)


    FC Dallas
    F Kenny Cooper ($342,500.00, option declined)
    M David Ferreira ($730,000.00, option declined)

    D Ugo Ihemelu ($200,000.00, option declined)


    Houston Dynamo
    D Bobby Boswell ($220,000.00, out of contract)
    M Calen Carr ($94,588.00, out of contract)
    D Michael Chabala ($57,508.00, option declined
    M Alex Dixon ($54,612.50, option declined)
    F Cam Weaver ($108,406.67, option declined)


    Los Angeles Galaxy
    M Colin Clark ($80,000.00, option declined)
    M Laurent Courtois ($46,500.00, option declined)
    D Sean Franklin ($248,333.33, option declined)
    M Pablo Mastroeni ($200,000.00, out of contract)
    Montréal Impact
    M Sinisa Ubiparipovic ($57,750.00, option declined)


    New England Revolution
    D Kevin Alston ($194,000.00, out of contract)
    F Chad Barrett ($110,709.17, option declined)
    F Ryan Guy ($48,510.00, option declined)
    M Clyde Simms ($90,833.33, option declined)
    M Juan Toja ($295,000.00, option declined)


    New York Red Bulls
    F Andre Akpan ($67,595.00, out of contract)
    M Brandon Barklage ($67,595.00, option declined)
    F Fabián Espindola ($150,000.00, option declined)
    GK Kevin Hartman ($54,000.00, option declined, retiring)
    D Heath Pearce ($340,736.00, out of contract)


    Philadelphia Union
    D Chris Albright ($75,000.00, out of contract, retiring)
    Portland Timbers
    D David Horst ($70,000.00, option declined)
    D Ryan Miller (option declined)


    Real Salt Lake
    M Yordany Álvarez ($46,500, option declined)
    M Brandon McDonald ($273,250.00, ,option declined)
    GK Josh Saunders ($95,250.00, option declined)
    M Khari Stephenson ($81,958.33, option declined)


    Seatle Sounders
    D Marc Burch ($75,000.00, option declined)
    GK Josh Ford ($46,500.00, option declined)
    M Blair Gavin ($35,125.00, option declined)
    M Mauro Rosales ($225,000.00, option declined)
    M Steve Zakuani ($233,000.00, out of contract)


    San Jose Earthquakes
    D Nana Attakora ($61,665.00, option declined)
    M Mehdi Ballouchy ($152,006.00, out of contract)
    M Dan Gargan ($88,000.00, option declined)
    GK Evan Newton ($46,500.00, option declined)


    Toronto FC
    F Justin Braun ($114,700.00, out of contract)
    M Bobby Convey ($215,000.00, option declined)


    Vancouver Whitecaps
    GK Joe Cannon ($189,916.67, option declined, likely to retire)
    F Tommy Heinemann ($51,975.00, option declined)
    F Corey Hertzog ($60,670.67, option declined)
    GK Brad Knighton ($68,600.00, option declined)


    The 2nd round is a chance to get some of the guys who are overpriced. Union landed Conor Casey this way. They selected him in the second stage of the 2012 Re-Entry Draft, and negotiated his salary down from $400,000 to $175,000.
     
  21. BrickStreetBoy

    Oct 3, 2012
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Thoughts on Espindola? Seems like a decent price for him
     
  22. pjguldan

    pjguldan Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cooper is poor in the air. He won 44% (36:82) of his headed duels. He scored six goals, four right footed, one left footed, one headed.

    Arrieta for comparison is wretched: 15% (7:47) headed duels. Three goals, two right footed, one left.

    Oduro compared well to Cooper: He won 45 (45:100) of his headed duels. 13 goals scored, 10 right, 3 left.
     
  23. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will repeat: The option salary may be much higher than the current salary. We do not have the option number, making it harder to speculate.
     
  24. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good info. Do you have that same info over a longer period (last season may be an outlier--or may not--certainly Arrietta had a better year the season before)?

    And that does make my point. He's better in the air than Jairo (I wasn't expecting the second coming of McBride). It's an upgrade.
     
  25. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hang on, you are having discussions with yourself now? Hmm.

    But yeah I was coming here to post the same thing. He will be back to #8.
     

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