2012 Thread for Discussion on other MLS Teams [R]

I hope not, TFC are wicked fun to watch under Winter because they can't defend but actually attack fairly well, so it makes for lots of chances every time they play.

 

You should read the latest article in one the Canadian papers being tweeted around. It sounds like the team is basically mutineeing. Winter says he needs new, better defenders, yet plays a three man back line and very little midfield cover making them very susceptible to counter attack. GK, defenders not impressed with his comments apparently; and Frings disagreed with his coach claiming it was his decision, not Winter's, to play behind the forwards in 2nd 1/2. Playing a passing game with three-man back line sounds like bad idea unless you can maintain Barcelona level possession.

 

Haha I enjoy watching them being a neutral not a TFC fan obviously, I'm sure my opinion would be much different if I supported them.

 

Now 4-1. Fun to watch MSRBNYNJWXYZ get torn apart, just wish it wasn't DCU doing it.

 

Fucito traded for the 2nd time this year.

Timbers acquire forward Mike Fucito from Montreal
Striker brings MLS, U.S. Open Cup and CONCACAF experience to Portland
April 20, 2012
Portland Timbers

This after "the other" Eddie Johnson retires.

 

Blas Perez suspended 1 match for his "elbow" on Jordan Harvey. The committee's worst decision yet.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/video/2012/04/24/perez-suspended-1-game

 

First the Shalrie decision now this. Wow. These guys are worse than I thought.

 

I'm really behind the idea of the Disciplinary Committee but they really need some transparency. They need to report which plays came under scrutiny each week and give detailed information regarding their decisions. Without this, I'm not really sure what purpose the Committee serves?

 

Like what Shanahan is doing with the NHL. That, my friends, is how you run a Disciplinary Committee

 

Wonder what Marcelin did to get the axe

 

It was an elbow to the head. Sure, it was unintentional, but intention has nothing to do with it.

 

I have no problem with the decision.

 

I didn't see that last angle from the endline when I saw the initial replay. I still think it's harsh, as you can find similar instances every match on aerial challenges. But I don't understand how they think that's worthy of making an example when there are far more dangerous and intentional fouls made each week that go without punishment. The lack of any uniform consistency or transparency bothers me.

 

Every match is seen live on TV by at least 1 member of the committee with the remit of looking for any incident to review afterward. Every incident is reviewed by the committee, and only those that they have unanimous votes that it was a red card infringement or violent conduct that is not part of the game do they act. If they feel the referee handled it adequately, or they do not have unanimity, they do not act. It is a high standard to punish. The committee includes former players, coaches, and refs. What play is the one that shows inconsistency this season?

 

Also, the main point of the committee is to create a credible deterrent to this type of conduct. Players say it is working. Players say that midfield reckless challenges aren't worth it anymore. Even if they miss one or can't agree unanimously.

 

Off the top of my head, Nguyen being barreled over is just as much excessive force as any tackle can be.

McDonald's studs up challenge on Tierney or Nguyen was the same as Balotelli's a few weeks back which drew nearly universal outrage. McDonald wasn't so much as carded.

Beckham had a similar incident earlier this year.

Again, I like reviewing calls and trying to curtail dangerous play in the future. But there's no objectivity as far as anyone can tell.

I have no idea who the former players/coaches are, but I've heard enough tv commentary from various players/coaches where they clearly didn't know the actual rules. Ask a player to write down the 7 events which lead to a sending off and I would bet half wouldn't get them all correct. Kelyn Rowe asked for a sending off for a handball at midfield.

 

You really should listen to the extra time radio pod cast from a week or so ago where they had Nelson Rodrigues, the Discipline Czar, on to run through all things DC before making these accusations.

 

The DC is there to correct or adjust the ref's call. Overtime, they will set the tone for the ref's and the ref's also go through specific training. They have nothing to do with each other other than that. Again, the interview covers all of that and many of your questions were raised.

 

I don't generally listen to podcasts, but I'll check it out. I've written before on this thread about how Nelson Rodrigues himself doesn't seem to understand or at least isn't able to correctly explain FIFA's interpretation of the Rules of the Game, so I'm not sure I'll find many answers in the interview that satisfy me.

I realize the DC doesn't have anything to do with the ref's call. I'm just pointing out similar or worse cases which they have not made rulings on. That McDonald wasn't even cautioned during the match is a separate problem.