2012 RSL Salaries

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  1. Ismitje Super Moderator

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    First number is base, second number is guaranteed compensation.

    Alphabetical Order
    Alvarez, Yordany 44,100 44,100
    Araujo, Paulo 75,000 75,000
    Arnoux, Cody 44,000 44,000
    Beckerman, Kyle 300,000 311,250
    Beltran, Tony 125,000 160,500
    Bonfigli, Emiliano 44,000 44,000
    Borchers, Nat 200,004 211,972.75
    Cruz, Leone 44,000.04 44,000.04
    Espindola, Fabian 125,000 125,000
    Estridge, Chris 33,750 33,750
    Fernandez, Lalo 33,750 33,750
    Gil, Luis 101,531 196,614.33
    Grabavoy, Ned 120,000 126,666.67
    Johnson, Will 243,750 243,750
    Martinez, Enzo 65,000 91,000
    Morales, Javier 425,000 477,500
    Muniz, Nico 33,750 33,750
    Olave, Jamison 200,000 250,000
    Reynish, Kyle 66,000 74,304
    Rimando, Nick 170,000 178,250
    Saborio, Alvaro 350,000 405,625
    Schuler, Chris 44,000 44,000
    Steele, Jonny 44,000 47,562.50
    Tanaka, Terukazu 44,000 44,000
    Veazquez, Sebastian 33,750 33,750
    Wingert, Chris 145,000 145,000
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  2. Ismitje Super Moderator

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    Now, using only the second number - guaranteed compensation - in descending order (* denotes GA player not counted against the cap):

    $400k +
    Morales 477,500
    Saborio 405,625

    $300k - 400k
    Beckerman 311,250

    $200k - 300k
    Olave 250,000
    Johnson 243,750
    Borchers 211,972.75

    $100k - 200k
    *Gil 196,614.33
    Rimando 178,250
    Beltran 160,500
    Wingert 145,000
    Grabavoy 126,666.67
    Espindola 125,000

    $33k - 100k
    *Martinez 91,000
    Araujo 75,000
    Reynish 74, 304
    Steele 47,562.5
    Alvarez 44,100
    Cruz 44,000.04
    Arnoux
    Bonfigli
    Schuler
    Tanaka 44,000
    Muniz 35,750
    Estridge
    Fernandez
    Veazquez 33,750
  3. Ismitje Super Moderator

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    My first reactions:

    1) I am glad we could split that dollar between Gil and Grabavoy;

    2) I hope Leone Cruz truly feels the four cents more he makes than the other guys on $44k.
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  5. I_Believe_In_Kreis Member+

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    OK, so who is on your underpaid & overpaid lists?

    Underpaid: Velazquez, Schuler, Bonfigli, Espy
    Overpaid: Enzo (though he's GA), Johnson

    Oh I hope I didn't just kick off another Sabo sucks/Sabo rocks thread...
  6. d1ddy Member

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    Mostly the same, though I take Bonfigli of the Underpaid list. I think that is an appropriate salary for 4th/5th striker. It still amazes me that we've had Schuler for ~40K for the last few years. He has to bump up to the 100-200K range next contract.

    I may get stoned for this, but I'm pretty bummed we haven't seem much from Javi the last 2 seasons for his salary. I know he has been dealing with injuries completely out of his control, and I believe his salary is appropriate for his skill and on field influence. Just reminds me how much I/the team miss him on the field.

    Anyone remember how many more years are on Johnson's deal?
  7. UPinSLC Member+

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    woooooooo, gil is making a FAT ASS check, freaking nearly 200k and he's what? 19 years old?

    none of the 33,750's surprise me, none in my opinion are underpaid. that's the rookie contract and unless you're taken in the high first round or are a GA you are not going to be making a lot of money. gotta earn dem bills. (and while some will say velasquez is underpaid, meh, not really. he's only played a few games and while he has looked impressive, he really hasnt proved anything....yet.)

    looking at the salaries, the ONLY one that kinda pops out to me as overpaid is Johnson. Ya, he's our energizer bunny, but he really doesnt put up the stats that say "I'm worth nearly $250k in this MLS Salary structure." This is highlighted by the fact that he is crammed between two defenders who have consistently been ranked in the top 3 in the league and are always finalists for the DOTY award. And the fact that he is nearly double Espy's salary.

    all the rest seem about right, obviously Javi's contract has been somewhat of an albatross considering he's played about a dozen games in the last year+. but it's not surprising or alarming given his injury situation. when he's healthy and playing he is obviously worth that contract.
  8. Black Prince Member

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    It's really only been one year. Dude was killing it before the massive injury last year. 7 goals and 9 assists in 2010 in MLS. In 2011 he had 2 goals 3 assists in 10 MLS matches (don't know how many came before his injury) + 3 goals and 1 assist in the CCL championship stage.

    He and Sabo, the highest paid players, deserve a lot of credit for RSL's success in the 10-11 CCL.
  9. Ismitje Super Moderator

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    Overpaid to me is Will, by about $45k. How else do we get that result against Seattle except by having him pair with Schuler outside? He does far more than we give him credit for, and I would value him around with Borchers.

    Beyond that, we've clearly rewarded Reynish for not trying for a starting job somewhere else. And as for bing underpaid, it's 100% Schuler - but he's really only underpaid based on this year, and that's the point of a contract - valuation over time.

    Bonfigli has all of 45 minutes of playing time. No need to change that salary.

    And for all he's done unexpectedly, Sebastian doesn't even make the bench most games. Hence, that'd be an appropriate salary for a kid out of a JC who was a longshot to even make the team.

    Mostly I think our salaries are spot-on. We could use this list paired with a list of how long the contracts run for to really judge them.
  10. BalanceUT BigSoccer Supporter

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    I think Espindola is underpaid by a fair amount. He should be somewhere in the $250K range, IMO.
  11. Ismitje Super Moderator

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    Unfortunately for Espy, that's the contract he renegotiated over the offseason; it's his for four years.
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    Well then, he's got a crap agent.
  13. ShaggyReAL Rasta Dreadnaught

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    Olave is underpaid. Johnson is Overpaid. Steele is underpaid. 47,000? eeek.
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    I wouldn't really say Steele is underpaid. Aside from those wonderful goals, he hasn't really struck me as a guy worth more right now. Epsy is underpaid and Johnson probably a little overpaid. Other than that I'd say they're pretty spot on for what has been proven so far. I'd slightly undervalue Schuler over the course of the contract, but for past/present I'd say he's certainly moving towards underpaid depending on what his next contract is.
  15. Ivensor Member

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    How about Rimando on the underpaid list? He's got save of the week more often than not this year, and has earned the MNT call up as well. Looks like most other first-string keepers in the league earn about $175 as well, so maybe it's appropriate. But in terms of contribution to the team, I think Nicky deserves more. Switch Rimando and Johnson's salaries and it seems about right to me. Oh, and give a bit more to Schuler and Espy; they're both underpaid.

    Not sure that Cruz is earning his extra 4 cents...:)
  16. Ismitje Super Moderator

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    I went through the top four paid defenders on each team for comparison purposes to our back four (rounded to the closest thousand). I may have missed someone as I went through; Philly, for example, is only listed with three defenders.

    RSL: Olave (250k), Borchers (212k), Beltran (165k), Wingert (145k)

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    Chicago: Friedrich (230,833k), Segares (217,350k), Gibbs (165k), Anibaba (105k)
    Chivas USA: Califf (275k), Riley (120,963k), Jazic (117,500k), Valencia (50k)
    Columbus: Marshall (341,250k), O'Rourke (145,600k), Miranda (140k), Mendes (106,290k)
    Colorado: Wynne (326,667k), Moor (247, 189k), Freeman (110,793k), Marshall (93,250k)
    Dallas: Ihemelu (190k), Jackson (141,375k), Pertuz (84k), Benitez (80k)
    DC: McDonald (258,200k), Dudar (238,333k), Jakovic (228,043k), Russell (109,919k)
    Houston: Boswell (200k), Hainault (163,125k), Sarkodie (135,500k), Ashe (94,500k)
    Kansas City: Cesar (255,750k), Collin (216,250k), Harrington (151,833k), Besler (103,001k)
    LA: Gonzalez (257,000k), Franklin (228,333k), Dunivant (146,750k), Leonardo (131,250k)
    Montreal: Ferrari (185,475k), Valentin (142k), Thomas (94,667k), Wahl (86,068k)
    NE: Lozano (241,485k), Alston (169k), Soares (116,450k), Polak (73k)
    NY: Marquez (4,600,00M), Pearce (301,999k), Holgersson (190k), Conde (141,667k)
    Philadelphia: Valdez (268k), Lopez (125,088k), Williams (90,500k), Gaddis (33,750k)
    Portland: Wallace (159k), Smith (120,500k), Brunner (100,625k), Mosquera (97,500k)
    Seattle: Parke (185,325k), Johansson (182,833k), Hurtado (161k), Gonzale (125k)
    San Jose: Opara (185,900k), Hernandez (175k), Bernardez (100k), Ward (65k)
    Toronto: Frings (2,413,667M), Eckersley (390k), Aceval (199,087k), Cann (134,750k)
    Vancouver: Demerit (350k), Bonjour (276,988k), Young-Pyo (174,250k), Rochat (170k)
  17. QuibblingNonesuch Member

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    Other teams have rosters full of 'misses'. The FO is doing well.
  18. georg Member

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    Under:

    Espy
    Steele
    Schuler

    Over:

    Johnson
    Sabo. (throw me some hate:))
  19. QuibblingNonesuch Member

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    The Vegas OVER on the number of times Georg will take an UNDER handed swipe at Sabo:




    ONE BILLION
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  20. 15 to 32 Member+

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    75K for a 3rd striker who doesn't have the speed that he is supposed to seems a bit much, to me
  21. Allez RSL Member+

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    The Rapids win the over-paid defender award right there. Is there any reason for Wynne to be making that much?
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    but he is soooooo fast....
  23. QuibblingNonesuch Member

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    Wynne's worth that salary IMO. 327k is not an insane evaluation by any stretch for a guy all MLS teams would like to have.
  24. Allez RSL Member+

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    I don't see it. His speed is nice, but I wouldn't put his value more than $250,000 or so. I'm not saying he's bad, just that you could probably find a just-as-serviceable outside back for $75,000 less, which you could spend on a pricier forward or midfielder.
  25. Taragui Member

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    After tonight's game, he should have to use some of that salary for my heart arrhythmia. Or maybe for some stick-um for his gloves. Those football wide receivers can't have a monopoly on the stuff...

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