2012 Playoff & Supporter Shield Race/Discussion About Other Teams [R]

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by burning247, Mar 4, 2012.

  1. Parrothead FC

    Parrothead FC Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess the news is that they're talking about buying AEG out completely.
     
  2. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    No one cares about the Dynamo.


    Sorry I haven't updated this thread. Work/school monster swallows up all my time. Planning on getting after it after this weekend.
     
  3. dtid

    dtid Member

    Sep 6, 2010
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I'm just glad that we can legitimately show our face in this thread as a playoff possibility again. It sure is nice to have the team that we knew was in there and cheered for in 2010 back.
     
  4. Cowtown Felipe

    Cowtown Felipe Member+

    Mar 12, 2012
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possible, but not probable. IF LA and Vancouver maintain their 1.42 points per game rate, they end up with 48.4. Right now we have 32 points with 7 games left. To get 49 points or better we have to win at least 5 of our 7 remaining games (2.42 points per game). The worst records (W-L-T) we can have are 5-0-2 or 6-1-0. This is a dose of reality after the joy and sudden optimism of the last 3 games.
    More bad news, there are only 2 "easy" games left (Chivas).
    On the positive side, even though LA has a game in hand on us, if we win this Sunday against them, we close to only 2 points behind them. That’s got to put some pressure on them and give us even more confidence and momentum going forward.
    More good news, LA has a CCL game on Thursday.
    Burn baby Burn!
     
  5. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even though pretty much everyone has games in hand on us, what I'm hoping is that it might help us in the respect that while everyone else is being ground down by having to play a lot of games in a short stretch, we won't.

    In other words, if LA has to play a lot of games in the coming weeks, they may not be able to maintain a 1.42 PPG pace.
     
  6. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Be weary of that 1.42 ppg pace.

    Since June LA is 8 wins 3 losses and 2 ties. For 26 points in 13 games for 2 ppg.

    Prior to June they were 3 wins, 8 losses and 2 ties for 11 points in 13 games for 0.85 ppg.
     
  7. Harper916

    Harper916 Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    Lake Charles, La.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I've been really bored and have put together a spreadsheet with some different stats to look at the Supporters Shield race and the playoff race. I had originally set the Eastern Conference teams needing 48 points for the playoffs and the Western Conference at 47 points. I may change that after this weekend though.

    Code:
        Eastern Conference                              PPG   Max Pts    PPG of               Last 7 PPG of
    Club            Pts    GP    W    L    T    PPG    to 48 Possible  RMNG Teams  Last 7 PPG  RMNG Teams
    Sporting KC     46    25    14    7    4    1.84    0.22    73        1.47      1.86        1.76
    NY Red Bulls    44    25    13    7    5    1.76    0.44    71        1.46      1.86        1.46
    Houston Dynamo  41    25    11    6    8    1.64    0.78    68        1.27      2.29        1.32
    Chicago Fire    41    25    12    8    5    1.64    0.78    68        1.40      1.86        1.54
    D.C. United     40    24    12    8    4    1.67    0.80    70        1.28      1.43        1.29
    Montreal Impact 36    27    11    13   3    1.33    1.71    57        1.43      2.14        1.47
    Columbus Crew   33    23    9     8    6    1.43    1.36    66        1.31      1.57        1.34
    Philly Union    24    22    7     12   3    1.09    2.00    60                  1.43 
    NE Revolution   23    24    6     13   5    0.96    2.50    53                  0.29 
    Toronto FC      20    24    5     14   5    0.83    2.80    50                  1.00 
    
    Code:
    Western Conference                                  PPG   Max Pts    PPG of              Last 7 PPG of
    Club            Pts    GP    W    L    T    PPG    to 47 Possible  RMNG Teams  Last 7 PPG  RMNG Teams
    SJ Earthquakes  47    25    14    6    5    1.88    0.00    74        1.17      1.57        1.10
    Real Salt Lake  42    26    13    10   3    1.62    0.63    66        1.38      1.29        1.45
    Sounders FC     40    24    11    6    7    1.67    0.70    70        1.29      2.00        1.24
    Whitecaps FC    37    26    10    9    7    1.42    1.25    61        1.24      1.00        1.18
    LA Galaxy       37    26    11    11   4    1.42    1.25    61        1.34      2.00        1.23
    FC Dallas       32    27    8     11   8    1.19    2.14    53        1.53      1.86        1.49
    Chivas USA      27    22    7     9    6    1.23    1.67    63        1.47      1.14        1.42
    Colorado Rapids 26    25    8     15   2    1.04    2.33    53                  0.57   
    Timbers         21    24    5     13   6    0.88    2.60    51                  0.29   
    
    Some of the other things I put in here are combined average points per game of remaining opponents, points per game for each teams previous 7 games, and combined average points per game for remaining opponents previous 7 games.

    I didn't complete some of the categories for some of the teams that look like they are out of the race.

    I also posted this in MLS: N&A
     
  8. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I just spent a lot of time typing out a new table only to accidentally click on the main site so when I hit backspace it went to the previous page and forgot everything.

    So just follow here: http://www.mlssoccer.com/standings :mad::mad::mad:
     
  9. Parrothead FC

    Parrothead FC Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MVP favorites anyone? Or are we all such boring homers that we don't care or won't admit to being interested?

    I'd like to see Rosales or EJ rewarded for what they've done in Seattle. Seattle was not a powerhouse for most of this season, and they struggled to win games convincingly until these two became regular starters. Once Rosales came back from his injuries and EJ had proven his worth during Montero's slump, Seattle went from being unpredictable and underperforming to an almost certain winner every week. One of the big downsides to picking either of them is that they weren't able to beat a similarly-unpredictable/underperforming Kansas City side to claim a fourth consecutive Open Cup. Maybe the MLS MVP award only takes league matches into consideration, but it's hard to totally ignore the Open Cup when it comes to Seattle.

    Wondo would be an obvious pick in terms of his goals and assists. I just think it wouldn't be a particularly interesting or thoughtful choice. San Jose hasn't shown that they rely on Wondo for results the way Seattle relies on EJ and Rosales, so he's less "valuable" to his team in that sense. Still, any other team would probably rather have Wondo than the Seattle players.

    As a preemptive response against those who are about to say "Ferreira -- look what he did for us when he came back," I say look at what Higuain has done for Columbus since he arrived at about the same time in the season.
     
  10. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Jair Benitez is league MVP for sure.
     
  11. sweeper33

    sweeper33 Member

    Jul 24, 2000
    Ding dong!!!
     
  12. Parrothead FC

    Parrothead FC Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shocking, isn't it?
     
  13. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    Remember how baggy soccer kits used to be?
     
  14. theodore

    theodore Member

    Nov 7, 2003
    Huge game for us on Sunday. Too bad that Colorado is so banged up. If Vancouver fail to get the full 3 points, the gulping and quivering is going to get very serious in Canada.
     
  15. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Ah the rare time I'll be cheering for the cRapids. It helps Pareja is their Gaffer.
     
  16. Kermmy803

    Kermmy803 Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Denton County, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will NOT be cheering for cRapids, but against Vancouver. ;)

    Yeah, that sounds good, right?
     
  17. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    DAMN! Much better put than my statement, sir.
     
  18. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You pay money for Direct Kick. You actually are home to watch an important game and what happens? The damn Canadian channel that is suppose to be showing the game is showing the end of an NFL game. Wish someone who controls such things gave a shit enough to switch it to the Rapids' broadcast.
     
  19. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Colorado happily shitting the bed, throwing away a goal lead (should have been more) and now down 2-1.
     
  20. dred

    dred Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    Land of Champions
    And then Vancouver remembered they were Canadian. Grats. You guys have a legit shot now and are far superior.
     
  21. theodore

    theodore Member

    Nov 7, 2003
    Thanks for the well-wishes. It is now playoffs, (albeit in an unofficial way). It is so weird how playing against several opponents on a standings table at the same time you are playing against a matched league opponent can totally screw with your head.

    What is it Randy Galloway used to clamor for? "Ah but to have a meaningful game in September", and that ladies and gentlemen is where we sit. The knees will knock and the hands will tremble, but the brave of heart and cool of mind will be playing into late October.
     
  22. theodore

    theodore Member

    Nov 7, 2003
    I know, it is all over..... but I thought that before too. If we can somehow close the 4 pt. gap and end up tied for points w/ Vancouver we move ahead on the first tie-breaker, (most goals scored).

    10/21 fixtures
    Portland @ Vancouver
    Dallas @ Seattle

    10/27 and 28 fixtures
    Vancouver @ RSL
    CUSA @ FCD

    So, if Vancouver win even 1 game we are done. However, anything less and the odds are still squirming. I fully expect to be scoreboard watching the last week.
     
  23. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    All our hope rests on Portland. I don't think Vancouver will get anything against RSL in their house, but first Portland has to deny them a win. The way Vancouver has been as of late, I wouldn't put it past them.
     
  24. Kermmy803

    Kermmy803 Member

    Jul 10, 2002
    Denton County, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Port v Van has Cascadia Cup implications as well. Portland has to win versus VAN to take the cup. A tie does them no good.
     
  25. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Those BS cups don't mean shit, unfortunately. The Brimstone has the most history behind it and I bet the players barely care about that.
     

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