Yes, we have played at the Giants stadium in SF. Lost to Houston 1-0 very early in the season for our only "home" loss. But, way too early to talk about these things.
yeah, i thought so. my pick would be stanford, but the gridiron season makes the playing surface difficult to set up (pointyball markings and bumpiness). the other two aren't my idea of what mls cup needs.
So New England can be eliminated this weekend with a loss to DC or with it they tie and Columbus win.
I like conference-based standings. It's easier to keep track of which games are relevant for my team. The real problem with the East is my team sucks. The BigSoccer problem is that too many posters think that losses in April and May are meaningless because "only end-of-the-season games matter".
I think what you mean prefer simplicity over fairness. I understand that. It's just not a really valid argument of why conferences are better, but rather a personal hangup. On the other hand, a single table is even more simple and more fair (not trying to derail the thread, I'm just saying....I am aware of the travel issue and balanced scheduling). I don't know, it seems pretty reasonable to like close playoff races. It's not that end of season matches matter less, it's that you want a race. In fact, MLS has intentionally tried to create that by stacking divisional matches at the end of the year (I actually like this a bit, despite my opposition to divsions generally). It gives a more tense "playoff like" atmosphere to the six pointers at season end. Even Vancouver-Dallas should be pretty good this weekend.
Here are the updated numbers; corrections are always welcome. Code: EASTERN CONFERENCE Rank Team Pts GR MP MN TN SS 1 SKC 51 6 69 9 28 24 2 CHI 50 6 68 10 27 25 3 NYR 49 6 67 11 26 26 4 HOU 46 5 61 14 20 29 5 DCU 44 6 62 16 21 31 6 CLB 42 6 60 18 17 33 7 MON 39 4 51 23 8 -- 8 NER 28 5 43 -- -- -- 9 PHL 27 8 51 35 8 -- 10 TOR 22 5 37 -- -- -- WESTERN CONFERENCE Rank Team Pts GR MP MN TN SS 1 SJE 56 6 74 ** ** 14 2 SEA 48 6 66 2 31 27 3 LAG 46 5 61 4 26 29 4 RSL 46 5 61 4 26 29 5 VAN 37 5 52 13 17 -- 6 FCD 36 4 48 17 12 -- 7 COL 29 5 44 24 8 -- 8 POR 28 6 46 25 10 -- 9 CHV 28 7 49 25 13 --
The new table code isn't quite ready for primetime, but I'm trying it out on the DCU board. https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/...layoff-situation.1974653/page-3#post-26467126
It is way too early to be talking about such things. But we may not have many options given that Oakland isn't available (the Raiders play less than 12 hours after the MLS Cup would conclude), and Stanford may not be available if they go on to host the Pac-12 championship game (which is a possibility after they beat Pac 12 favorite USC this weekend) which would be held less than 24 hours before the MLS Cup at Stanford Stadium. That leaves only the two SF stadiums (AT&T Park and Candlestick Park). And neither is a very good option compared to Buck Shaw.
And Stanford doesn't even need to host, they just need to still be in the running two weeks before the Championship when MLS has to set the location of MLS Cup.
For Wed/Thursday matches, I believe nothing can be set (eliminations/clinchings), but a lot of numbers can be drastically reduced. Seattle will have a MN of 1, with a Chivas loss. San Jose will take their "effective MN" for the quarters down to 1 with a win. Philly would be whiddled down to a TN of 3 with loss on Thursday. And of course, DC can take a huge step towards playoff qualification with a win. Unfortunately, there aren't any real six pointers, most battles consist of one team in the thick of it, and one team that's almost eliminated.
I'd argue VAN-COL is a "6-pointer". VAN wins, and COL's TN is reduced to 2 points. COL wins, and they're suddenly only 5 back of VAN with 4 games to play, which means they'd theoretically have a shot at the playoffs, even with the disgusting number of losses they've accumulated this season.
Sorry, I was only counting midweek games. But to be honest, Colorado is more like Philly than a legitimate contender right now. Spade a spade and all that.
I didn't notice the "Wed/Thurs" lead-in for your post, my bad. I'm not claiming Colorado is good or a contender - spades and all. But comparing them to Philly in this case isn't quite the same, as Philly now has to, somehow, make up 18 points in 8 games on the 5th place team in order to make the playoffs, and have DC and Montreal somehow not gain any points, either. In the weaker West, somehow Colorado has just 8 points to make up in 5 games to make the playoffs, their next game happens to be against the team they need to make up those points against, and they only have to worry about DAL not gaining any points either. Philly is a much crispier toast than Colorado is.
Here are the updated numbers; corrections are always welcome. Code: EASTERN CONFERENCE Rank Team Pts GR MP MN TN SS 1 SKC 54 5 69 6 25 19 2 CHI 50 6 68 10 24 23 3 NYR 49 5 64 11 20 24 4 DCU 47 5 62 13 18 26 5 HOU 46 5 61 14 17 27 6 CLB 45 5 60 17 15 28 7 MON 39 4 51 23 6 -- 8 NER 28 5 43 -- -- -- 9 PHL 27 7 48 35 3 -- 10 TOR 22 5 37 -- -- -- WESTERN CONFERENCE Rank Team Pts GR MP MN TN SS 1 SJE 57 5 72 ** ** 13 2 SEA 48 6 66 1 31 25 3 LAG 46 5 61 3 26 27 4 RSL 46 5 61 3 26 27 5 VAN 37 5 52 12 17 -- 6 FCD 36 4 48 17 12 -- 7 COL 29 5 44 24 8 -- 8 POR 29 5 44 24 8 -- 9 CHV 28 6 46 25 10 -- It is quite possible that four of the five playoff spots in the Western Conference will have been claimed by the end of this weekend, before any team in the Eastern Conference clinches. I believe that SKC can get there with a win over Montreal (no gimme) if CLB loses or draws at CHI (could happen) and DCU loses at home to CHV (not likely).
Yes--ever since someone pointed out the implications of that game to me, I have felt obliged to incorporate it into the calculations. Thanks.
FYI, if you run the numbers tonight you won't need to adjust it (as DCU and CLB are not close to each other.
True, but I am waiting until after tonight's games to post the update. If DCU loses to CHV, then the adjustment will still be necessary.
Here are the updated numbers; corrections are always welcome. Code: EASTERN CONFERENCE Rank Team Pts GR MP MN TN SS 1 SKC 55 4 67 3 23 18 2 CHI 53 5 68 5 24 20 3 NYR 50 4 62 8 18 23 4 DCU 50 4 62 8 18 23 5 HOU 46 4 58 12 14 -- 6 CLB 45 4 57 14 12 -- 7 MON 40 3 49 19 4 -- 8 PHL 30 6 48 29 3 -- 9 NER 29 4 41 -- -- -- 10 TOR 22 4 34 -- -- -- WESTERN CONFERENCE Rank Team Pts GR MP MN TN SS 1 SJE 60 4 72 ** ** 9 2 LAG 49 4 61 ** ** 24 3 RSL 49 4 61 ** ** 24 4 SEA 48 5 63 1 28 25 5 VAN 38 4 50 11 15 -- 6 FCD 36 4 48 15 11 -- 7 COL 30 4 42 21 5 -- 8 POR 29 4 41 22 4 -- 9 CHV 28 5 43 23 6 -- Needless to say, the SKC-CHI match this Friday is huge.