2012 FIFA Club World Cup: News & Analysis [R]

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  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Congratulations to the first team to qualify for the next World Cup:

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    Monterrey (Mexico)

    The rayados lost 2-1 on the evening, but won the CONCACAF Champions League Final 3-2 on aggregate.
     
  2. Mr. P Mosh

    Mr. P Mosh Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Monterrey, NL, Mex
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Respuesta: Re: 2012 FIFA Club World Cup: News & Analysis [R]

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  3. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxLNemfVYtA"]4.25.12 CCL Highlights Santos v Monterrey - YouTube[/ame]

    Monterrey return to Japan with their second CCL title in club history. That is title #28 for Mexico:

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    [i][U]Countrywise list of winners[/U]
    
    Mexico                   28
    
    Costa Rica                6
    
    El Salvador               3
    
    Guatemala                 2
    Haiti                     2
    Honduras                  2
    Surinam                   2
    Trinidad and Tobago       2
    USA                       2
    [/i]
     
  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    O-League Final, First Leg:

    Auckland City (New Zealand) - AS Tefana (Tahiti) 2:1

    That is quite a good result for Tefana who get to take home an away goal. Auckland - who already missed out on the New Zealand ASB Premiership title this season - will be under pressure defending that slim lead in Tahiti.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai-nvZ9ZCUo"]2012 O-LEAGUE FINAL 1st LEG - HIGHLIGHTS AKL vs TEF - YouTube[/ame]
     
  5. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The first legs of the CAF second round were played this weekend. Al Ahly was beaten in the final minute in Mali and TP Mazembe took a major step towards the group phase. Virtually there are defending champions Espérance with a 6:0 victory over Dynamos FC.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwe1-8YHdCw"]CL 2012 Espérance Sportive de Tunis Vs Fc Dynamos 6-0 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  6. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The Copa Libertadores, Round-of-16, First Legs, are complete. Deportivo Quito has one foot in the quarterfinals and Bolivar beat defending champions Santos at home.



    In the AFC CL group stage matchday five is now complete and several groups are extremely close. Abu Dhabi's Al Jazira has finally overcome the bad spell for UAE clubs and qualified for the next round. 2011 finalists Jeonbuk displayed an amazing turnaround, now leading Group H after losing the first two matches. Thailand's Buriram are still in it as well, despite this loss to Kashiwa.

     
  7. revolutionaryguy

    revolutionaryguy New Member

    Oct 13, 2008
    Why don't they expand the whole damn thing? Not only the 6 confederation winners and the host nation, but also the winner of the UEFA and Sudamerica Cup tournaments, the 6 confederation runners-up and 9 teams chosen at random. That would make it an even 24 club teams. And at last, we can get a true world club champion.
     
  8. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There is not enough time to held such a large tournament. Even now the teams in question have to postpone league matches.
     
  9. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    9 teams chosen at random?Why? Wouldn't be a true world club champion if a random team won it now. It's fine just as it is.
     
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  10. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Non-continental champions don't deserve to play for the undisputed club football championship of the world.

    Druryfire is correct, the current format is fine.
     
  11. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The Copa Libertadores quarterfinals are set. SC Internacional bowed out against Fluminese, defending champions Santos crushed Bolivar 8:0 in the return leg, and Universidad de Chile stunningly prevailed after a 4:1 loss in the first leg:

     
  12. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I wouldn't say that, just look at the FIFA World Cup.
    But anyway I agree the current format is fine, because there just isn't enough time. However it also means the club world cup isn't a very prestigious competition.
     
  13. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Well, the World Cup just has a different elimination system.

    Why isn't the CWC prestigious? You have to win Europe to get there, then beat the S. Amer. champ. Or win a confederation, then beat the European champ. That's extremely difficult.
     
  14. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    For European teams the most difficult part is to win the UEFA Champions League to reach the CWC. After that the potential opponents actually become easier.

    It is surely nice to win the CWC and of course the players want to win it, but for most teams it only has a low priority after CL, national championship and the national cup competition. I mean how important is a competition, when the participants have to reschedule their championship matches to take part in it? To me it's more like a Super Cup.
     
  15. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I would put it ahead of any domestic cup competition (also due to marketing reasons) and clearly ahead of any Super Cup. Hopefully you can tell us about the German coverage of the CWC in December. :D

    Anyway, let's not get side-tracked with this old argument. The next participant will be known on Sunday. Either CWC regulars Auckland City or newcomers AS Tefana.
     
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  16. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I predict the coverage would be massive in Germany if Bayern were to win the CL. That's just like us typical Euro snobs! ;)
     
  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Bayern's last club world title. The corner was taken by no other than Swiss standout Ciriaco Sforza. Up next, Xherdan Shaqiri in 2012? :geek:

     
  18. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    That shows it is important, since teams have to reschedule for it and play it on the weekend.

    Anyway, you're right, winning Europe is the hardest part. Just like the first 37 games of City's league campaign was the hardest part. The CWC is the most difficult prize to win, and it represents the championship of the whole planet.

    No side-tracking, just friendly discussion, Swiss. :D
     
  19. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any broadcast info?
     
  20. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Participants in the FA Cup often have to reschedule league matches. Does that make it less important?
     
  21. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Only option that I see is OFC TV for $3 NZD: http://ofctv.e-cast.co.nz

    Hope the Tefana fans can fill the Stade Louis Ganivet. The 1,500 in the first leg were a bit underwhelming for a final.
     
  22. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Super cups are either domestic champion vs. domestic cup winner or UEFA Champions League winner vs. Europa League winner. In both cases both clubs involved could have won the other tournament. With the Club World Cup, you're playing the host or winner of another champions league that you couldn't possibly win.
     
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  23. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    And team #2 is...

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    ACFC beat Tefana 1:0 in Tahiti, 3:1 on aggregate. It is the 4th OFC title for Auckland.

    All-time list by FA:

    6 - New Zealand
    4 - Australia
    1 - Papua New Guinea
     
  24. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So then, UEFA will provide the first new team in the next CWC (Munich haven't qualified for one in the current format, right?).
     
  25. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    Neither has Chelsea. The only English clubs to play in the CWC are Man U and Liverpool.
     

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