2012 College Cup

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  1. Sandon Mibut

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    The matchup between Maryland and Georgetown has gotten the attention of WashPo columnist Mike Wise, who also hosts a local radio show. To be clear, this isn't an article but an opinion piece written by one of the paper's lead columnists.

    It's mostly about the silliness of the two schools refusing to play each other because of a pissing match that few can agree on the origins of, but it's still cool that this game is getting this kind of "mainstream" sports media attention.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ee7c4a-3ff3-11e2-ae43-cf491b837f7b_story.html


  2. TimB4Last

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    Not sure how I missed the games - thought they were today, not yesterday. Georgetown 3-2 Maryland counts as a mild upset, I guess, but Indiana 16-12 Creighton. WTF! Highlights, please.
  3. Well Duh

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    yes especially when you arbitrarily make the MPSF, IVY and Hopkins majors in all the other sports they win...
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    what are u talking about ?? those are the teams seeds! haha


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    28 goals scored? Not missing this! Where is the Defense?
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    It'd be pretty amusing to see you try to argue that Hopkins isn't a major independent in lax or that the MPSF isn't a major in the sports where everybody knows it is. The only call I made where there might be disagreement is the Ivies in lacrosse, since they've fallen off from their historical position. But in that case, it hardly matters. They haven't won a title in over a decade.
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    Looking back...........

    Creighton beat IU 1-0 last fall at IU with Gomez being relegated to substitute duty because he was coming off an injury........I was at that game, and Creighton had the better of play even without Gomez on the field.

    WITH Gomez on the field, and with Pitter's ability to score, I be very afraid for IU.....Bushue and Petts will have to contain Gomez for IU to keep Creighton's scoring chances to a minimum.......
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  8. Well Duh

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    The point that I am making and that you just made for me is that there are sports where success fall outside of the majors as described. Soccer is one of them

    Saying soccer is unique is kind of silly when there are a number of sports that have the same situation Your analysis made those other sports disappear as you removed schools that have emphasized the particular sports more than the majors by claiming them as majors.

    When the SEC barely plays soccer and the BiG and Pac 12 and ACC have less than full participation it clearly puts soccer in the same light as lax water polo volleyball and the like.
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    Well, if you saw the Creighton-Princeton game earlier in the season, in which Creighton luckily escaped with an overtime victory, you wouldn't care much about how many goals Creighton scores because I have to think Zavaleta will shred their defense.
    The problem will be if Bushue plays overly physical because Gomez goes down pretty easy and will likely draw some cards.
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    Men's hockey would show a similar pattern: most championships won by one of three "power" conferences: WCHA, Hockey East, CCHA (the other major conferences being ECAC, AHA).

    From 1970-2012 (inclusive), WCHA has won 21/43 of the championships = 48.8%. Hockey East has won 10/43 = 23.2%. CCHA has won 7/43 = 16.2%.

    The percent would go down slightly for WCHA if I just did the last 32 years and Hockey East percentage would go up slightly. The conference breakdown of the runners-up was similar to the champions, although I just eyeballed it.

    Otherwise, I'm headed home soon to watch the first game. I have a "cold."
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  11. Hararea

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    1. In sports that aren't sponsored by the Pac-12, the MPSF is a major conference, period. By failing to acknowledge this, you come across as though you don't know what you're talking about.
    2. Aside from that, your objection applies to one sport: lacrosse, where the traditional "major" label is dubious at best. But again, that's one sport. It doesn't have a big impact on the analysis.

    Are there other sports where you get as many titles and serious title contenders coming from non-major conferences? Golf is one, but there aren't many others.
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    Maybe we can debate whether golf is even a sport - after the College Cup is over.
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    You don't have to go back very far to when there were only 4 conferences in ice hockey. That may distort the numbers a little.
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    I'm rooting for Creighton.
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    Not enjoying the commentators so far. Too much irrelevant chit-chat, not enough of the players' names.

    Venue looks good, attendance a little sparse.
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    great flick into the box and Tshuma scores for Maryland. 1-0 Terps.
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    Could've been three assists on that one. The flick was Mullins, I think the cross was Stertzer, and I'm not sure who slipped the ball through to Stertzer. Quality goal. 1-0 midway through the first half.
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    Interesting the Penso is running the middle of this one. He's the one who called the controversial but probably correct handball at the start of OT in the Akron-Creighton game.
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    Georgetown Hoyas tie it up 1-1
  22. Sandon Mibut

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    Glenn Davis: "Georgetown forces an unforced error...":eek:
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  23. Sandon Mibut

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    Golazzo!

    Steve Neumann, welcome to Generation adidas.
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    Neumann scores off the post and in for his second goal. 2-1 Georgetown
  25. Sandon Mibut

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    Nice video by ESPN to go back and show the Terps' goal was offside.

    If Maryland gets an equalizer, that will loom very large, obviously.

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