2012 AFC Cup

Discussion in 'AFC: Tournaments' started by druryfire, Aug 3, 2011.

  1. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Ok, let's keep an eye on thing's as teams start to qualify for next years edition and new nations plan to enter.
    • Myanmar have applied to enter the 2012 AFC Cup
    • Malaysian Clubs will re-enter the tournament after a 1 year absence
    Provisional Entrant List:

    1. Al Muharraq (Bahraini League Champions)
    2. Al Wehdat (Jordan League and Cup winners)
    3. Al Faisaly (Jordan League runners up)
    4. Al Qadisiya (Kuwaiti League Champions)
    5. Kazma (Kuwaiti Emir Cup winners)
    6. Al Ahed (Lebanese League and Cup winners)
    7. Safa (Lebanese League runners up)
    8. Al Suwaiq (Omani League Champions)
    9. Al Oruba Zabid (Yemeni League Champions)
    10. Kitchee (HK League Champions)
    11. Citizen (HK Cup winners)
    12. Kelantan (Malaysian League Champions)
    13. Terengganu (Malaysian Cup winners)
    14. Al Ittihad Aleppo (Syrian Cup winners)
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I take the AFC Cup starts early in 2012.
     
  3. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    It should be the usual March opening.

    Of course, the excitiment starts with trying to guess the allocations and if anyone is promoted to the ACL or promoted from the Presidents Cup.
     
  4. YomaTaung

    YomaTaung Member

    Nov 16, 2008
    Princeton, USA
    AFC delegation is currently in Myanmar inspecting the pitches and facilities. Not certain when they will decide (before Oct?). Let's hope for the best. I am not familiar with acceptance criteria - can anyone post? Apparently number of stadiums meeting AFC standards is one.
    For the 12 MNL teams I understand we now have six stadiums, with 4 outside Yangon. This is an improvement. When MNL began in 2009, there were two stadiums barely acceptable outside Yangon, one in Mandalay (for Yadanarbon) and Taungyi (for Kanbawza). Now stadiums have been added in two additional towns. The existing two stadiums in Yangon are common to MNL teams, meaning not a home field for a club. However, with the fan base it feels like it they belong to Yangon United. Yangon United really seem to have established a sustainable system - their own new pitch (turf) with stands, robust reserve and academy teams. (BTW, all 12 teams have reserve squad who a play their two-leg league).
    If MNL is given two spots for AFC Cup we can be competitive, esp at home.
     
  5. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    druryfire, why do you devote your life to following weak asian teams? are you trying to be a coach in asia or something? just curious.
     
  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aren't you a fan of Iran?

    [​IMG]
     
  7. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Who said i'm followig weak football teams :D

    I give as much effort to these threads as I do to the bigger comps.
     
  8. persianfootball

    persianfootball Member+

    Aug 5, 2004
    outside your realm
    how ironic... an american saying such. but the lack of intellect on your part, not so much [ironic]. Iran is not on the level of the teams drury follows, and i am Iranian; he isnt of the nationalities that he supports in football.
     
  9. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Let's not turn this into a slanging match please lads. Let's try to keep the focus on the AFC Cup, and for the record I'm a neutral except for Thailand, the country of my wife and daughter.

    Now, maybe a question for yourself persianfootball or anyone else that feel they can answer:

    Iran enter the ACL, generally it's the same teams in every edition, would it be more worthwhile for the AFC and Iranian football if teams also entered the AFC Cup. Here, we could be talking about a Malavan for example, a long time since they have played continental football, surely this would be a step in the right direction for themselves and also a step forward for the AFC as they could start to improve the competition? Of course, I'm only talking if Malavan won something (they nearly did), I'm not taking of invites.

    This question can be open for followers of other leagues that are generally dominated by 3 or 4 clubs (Saudi Arabia, Qatar spring to mind).
     
  10. YomaTaung

    YomaTaung Member

    Nov 16, 2008
    Princeton, USA
    Drury - I, for one, am a big fan of yours. Keep posting. Makes discussions very interesting. Cheers.
     
  11. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Thank you YomaTaung. By the way, the AFC Special Mission Team are in Myanmar this week to assess the 6 grounds.

    Here's hoping that Myanmar will be included in next years AFC Cup where we can have some good regional matchups between Thai, Burmese, Singaporese and Malaysian teams.

    Who needs an ASEAN Club Championship if we can have these?

    Anyways, Iraq appear to have moved to the final stages of there season. Looks like championship finalists Arbil and Al Zawaraa qualify for next years edition.
     
  12. Kutsuit

    Kutsuit Member

    Mar 2, 2011
    Kuwait City
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Kuwait
    I'm not too bothered about us (Kuwait SC) being out of the 2012 tournament, just as long as we put up a good fight this year and try reaching the latter stages. :)
     
  13. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Two more teams enter the competition, both from Iraq.

    Al Zawra'a, won the league championship today, 12th title overall

    Arbil qualify as runners up.
     
  14. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Another champion crowned today, this time, Song Lam Nghe An of Vietnam.
     
  15. tato_Top

    tato_Top Member

    Jul 9, 2002
    Auckland,NZ
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Indonesia
    Will Indonesian clubs participate in this competition again? And how many is the quota for Indonesian club?
     
  16. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Last year Indonesian clubs were invited, but in 2012 the AFC have already allocated 2 slots to clubs from Malaysia who didn't enter last year.

    Singapore FA pulled out of continetal competition last year aswell, but Tampines were invited. The same could happen again.

    As it stands, the allocation seems to be:

    2 teams to qualify from each of the following associations:
    Hong Kong
    Iraq
    Jordan
    Kuwait
    Lebanon
    Malaysia[1]
    Maldives
    Oman
    Syria
    Vietnam
    Yemen

    1 team to qualify from each of the following associations:
    Bahrain
    India
    Thailand

    2 invited teams, associations TBD

    5 losers from the 2012 AFC Champions League qualifying play-offs (including any of the 2011 AFC Cup finalists which fail to fulfil the criteria set by AFC to compete in the 2012 AFC Champions League, and thus directly enter the 2012 AFC Cup)

    Myanmar have also applied for upgrade from the 2012 AFC President's Cup to the 2012 AFC Cup. So, this could in theory take away one of the invited slots.

    All the above is of course guess work usign the previous qualifying slots which at this moment haven't changed, but AFC do continue to do the rounds at the moment.
     
  17. happy

    happy Member

    Nov 23, 2004
    Spore did nt pulled out of AFC Cup

    Bth Home & Tampines had been send as applicant in AFC Cup

    But bth were rejected as they did nt meet target as champions of their own domestic competition before Tampines gt a invitation
     
  18. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Singapore pulled out of the Champions League and the AFC Special Mission Team cancelled their visit to Singapore to assess the facilities, the facilities that are used to give slots to ACL and AFC Cup. The fact FAS pulled them out did put the S.League out of contention.

    They went from one guarenteed slot along with a ACL half slot to nothing because they withdrew.

    Like you said, Tampines got an invitation but if Myanmar get a slot in 2012 and if Indonesia did then were would Singapore fit in? AFC won't send a team to Singapore to assess them until FAS go back to the AFC to apply.

    Vietnam got kicked out of the ACL for non submission of documents but they didn't get kicked out of the AFC Cup because they already went through the assessment process. They were on the roll call so to speak, but Singapore never were.

    In Korea Republic it was decided that next highest placed K-League club would take the place of Gwangju Sangmu in case they qualify for the AFC Champions League. But it was never decided in Singapore's case cause again they were never part of the assessment process.
     
  19. happy

    happy Member

    Nov 23, 2004
    Our pullout only meant we cld nt ply in ACL as AFC still ask us to send teams for AFC Cup

    Also ACL inspection results was delayed in the end by 1 yr becos of India & tht was why there was no reform last yr so it did nt affect any outcome

    But the prblem as I wrote in ASEAN thread is we hve a politician as our head who is a media whore

    He only wnt success nt failure so by pulling of ACL before AFC act

    He will nt be blamed as the focus became elsewhere as he expected

    Looked at him, only turning up when the media is around but nvr arnd for any S-league events & he has grounded out women football (as they hve no media coverage)
     
  20. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Navibank Saigon won todays Vietnamese Cup final 3:0 over league champions Song Lam Nghe An to take their place in the 2012 edition.

    Navibank play in Ho Chi Minh City (formally Saigon)
     
  21. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    VB Sports of the Maldives have secured there place in the 2012 tournament.
     
  22. indiafootballfan

    Feb 26, 2010
    all over usa
    Club:
    Pune FC
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    east bengal also
     
  23. timnicebutdim

    timnicebutdim Red Card

    Nov 21, 2011
    Taken from Jonnys over AFC Cup thread:

    AFC Cup playoff :

    al Tilal (Yemen) vs Victory (Maldives)
    Terengganu (Malaysia) vs Ayeyawady (Myanmar)


    West :

    Kuwait : Qadsia , Kazma, Kuwait SC
    Jordan : Al Wehdat , al Faisaly
    Syria : Al Shorta, Al Ittihad
    Iraq : al Zawra , Arbil
    Oman : al Suwaiq , TBC
    Lebanon : Al Ahed, Safa
    India : Salgoacar, Kingfisher East Bengal
    Yemen : Al Orouba
    Maldives : V.B.


    East :

    Vietnam : Song Lam Nghe An , Navibank Saigon
    Indonesia : Arema Indonesia
    Singapore : Tampines Rovers, Home United
    Hong Kong : Kitchee, Citizen
    Malaysia : Kelantan
    Myanmar : Yangon United
    --------------------

    4 losers from ACL


    Total 32 teams


    Bahrain not participating.


    Source : afc documents
     

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