2012 AFC Champions League

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  1. jonny63

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    AFC Champions League 2012 - Group Stage



    Group A

    A1. Al Rayyan (QAT)

    A2. Al Jazira (UAE)

    A3. Nasaf (UZB)

    A4. ACL Playoff West: winner 1 or 2 (TBC)

    Group B

    A1. Al Ittihad (KSA)

    A2. Al Arabi (QAT)

    A3. Baniyas (UAE)

    A4. Pakhtakor (UZB)

    Group C

    A1. Sepahan (IRN)

    A2. Al Ahli (KSA)

    A3. Lekhwiya (QAT)

    A4. Al Nasr (UAE)

    Group D

    A1. ACL Playoff West: winner 1 or 2 (TBC)

    A2. Piroozi (IRN)

    A3. Al Hilal (KSA)

    A4. Al Gharafa (QAT)

    Group E

    A1. Gamba Osaka (JPN)

    A2. ACL Playoff East: winner 1 or 2 (TBC)

    A3. Bunyodkor (UZB)

    A4. ACL Playoff East: winner 1 or 2 (TBC)

    Group F

    A1. Ulsan Hyundai (KOR)

    A2. Emperor's Cup winner (JPN)

    A3. Brisbane Roar (AUS)

    A4. Beijing Guoan (CHN)

    Group G

    A1. Tianjin Teda (CHN)

    A2. Seongnam Ilhwa Chunma (KOR)

    A3. Nagoya Grampus (JPN)

    A4. Central Coast Mariners (AUS)

    Group H

    A1. League champions (THA)

    A2. Guangzhou Evergrande (CHN)

    A3. Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors (KOR)

    A4. Kashiwa Reysol (JPN)



    AFC Champions League 2012 - Playoffs

    East Zone

    18/02/12

    Pohang Steelers (KOR) v FA Cup winners (THA)

    Due to the withdrawal of Liaoning Whowin and Persipura Jayapura, the East Zone Playoffs were reduced to three teams. A three-way draw was conducted with Adelaide United receiving direct entry to the Group Stage, where they were drawn in Group E alongside the winner of the Pohang versus Thai FA Cup winners match.

    If Pohang win, they will be placed in position E4 and Adelaide United will occupy E2 while if the Thai FA Cup winners emerge victorious then they will take position E2 and Adelaide will go to position E4.



    West Zone

    11/02/12 - Round 1

    Esteghlal (IRN) v Zob Ahan (IRN)

    18/02/12 - Round 2

    Al Shabab (UAE) v Neftchi (UZB)

    Round 1 winner (TBC) v Al Ettifaq (KSA)

    If Al Ettifaq win then they will be positioned in A4, while that position will be occupied by one of the Iranian clubs should they win the final playoff round. The winner of Al Shabab's match with Neftchi will be placed in D1.

    http://www.the-afc.com/en/tournamen.../935-afc-champions-league-2012/37398-acl-draw


  2. greenlion

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    Guangzhou Evergrande officially confirmed Bayern Munich player Ivica Olic just signed a three years' deal with Guangzhou, Bayern will recieve a transfer fee of 1.8 millon Euro and Ivica Olic's salary will be 7.5 million EURO per year.

    The club will hold a official press meeting for more news by December 9, Chairman of Guangzhou evergrande said the aim of next season is to enter quarter-final of ACL.
  3. pomkiatisuk

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    You know Buriram PEA is best of Thaipremierleague
    tough to win maybe not have chance to win looking forwardto
  4. pomkiatisuk

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    teams representation of thailand tough to win

    Nasaf champion AFC Cup lose to Chonburi in Home ... Buriram strongest in thai
    not same muangthong and Chonburi assure ..


  5. koreansock

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    Alright everyone you heard the man. Go to the betting site of your choice and bet on a Sriracha-Sisaket final.
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    correction guangzhou will pay bayern 18 million EURO
    for Olic
  7. teammellieIRANfan

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    lol AFC allocated 2+2 spots for Iran, yet didnt bother to organize the draw and seeds so that clubs from the same country would not play against each other in the play-off round. So essentially it isn't 2+2 anymore, but 2+1. Absolutely disgusting. I wonder what they'll think of next to screw Iran once more.
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    I would say it is exactly 3! but yes, it could be 4.
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    Isn't Iran the only nation with 2 playoffs spots though? Such a law would be exclusive to protecting Iran.
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    Ridiculous that an Uzbekistan team is in the east zone. Firstly defeating the claimed purpose of splitting the AFC into two halves (travel). Now Gamba, Adelaide and probably Pohang have to go to fricken Uzbekistan.

    So really AFC isn't splitting into 2 halves, east & west. They're going 17 western clubs & 15 eastern clubs.
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    Well, it's better than last time when a Qatari or Emirati team had to travel to Australia as well.
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    with Uzbekistan and Aussie team, teams of this group have to travell way a lot. It is really hard group.

    Anyway, Uzbekistan team has more hard time of travelling 3 times to fricken East Asian nations(and Australlia) while East Asian teams only need 1 time to Uzbekistan. Similar disadvantage often happens for Big East Asisan countries in WCQ when most teams are from West Asia , though.
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    Are you out of your fcking Arab mind?

    So what if it's exclusive to protecting Iran? The policy makes a lot more sense than without it. But I bet anything that protects Iran is unlawful to you, right?
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    Explain yourself, Arab. Why is this any better?
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    A much easier method would be to allow Iranian teams into the second round immediately. Or one in the second round and one in the first round.

    I'm wondering how the Iranians both got first round picks?

    It had to be done. There are 17 West Asian teams and 15 East Asian teams. How are you going to split that evenly?
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    How's it better when there's more travel for all parties involved?
  17. teammellieIRANfan

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    Well AFC did give 2+2. As I have understood, that indicates 2 direct birhts with the possibility of 2 more through playoffs. That is the amount that was allocated to Iran in the competition, but with the two Iranian teams facing each other eliminates that possibility, which is why I question it. In draws "protection" rules, in some cases, are applied to serve the cause that certain teams are not facing each other and I feel it should have been the case here.

    One thing that actually is exclusive to the Iranian teams is that they have to go through two rounds. But hey tough luck. Thats the result from the draw, so shit happens....I guess...
    *sigh
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    China Announce pro-League expansion plan and New CFA cup format

    news from CSL committe and CFA, China decided to expand it's professional league in order to reach the standard set up by AFC Professional Leagues Ad-hoc Committee.

    currently the top tier of Chinese professional League, the Chinese Super League - CSL has 16 clubs, second level professional League, C-League 1 also has 16 clubs, and the third level C-League 2 has 19 clubs.

    according to CSL committe, C-League committe and CFA, the 2013 Chinese league, in professional and semi-professional level will have 56 clubs, with 16 CSL clubs, 18 C-League 1 clubs and 22 C-League 2 clubs.

    currentlly the Japanese J-League is the biggest asian league in terms of club numbers, with 18 J1 clubs, 20 J2 clubs and 18 JFL clubs.

    the AFC also announced the new format of Chinese FA Cup,Starts from 2012 season, the Final match of CFA cup will be played at the Beijing National Stadium - Birds Nest

    the CFA cup opens to 48 clubs and the slots will be distribute like these:
    1. CSL clubs - 16 in total
    2. C-League 1 clubs - 16 in total
    3. 7 clubs from the C-league 2, picked by CFA, - 7 clubs
    4. 4 teams from the Chinese Ameturish League National Championship - 4 clubs
    5. 2 teams from AFC Vision China City League Champions Cup - 2 clubs
    6. 3 teams from Chinese Univercity League - 3 teams
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    I understand the anguish. I think a fair way to resolve the draw would be to guarantee one Iran team to be in the second playoff round or even both in the second playoff round.

    Or even a better solution: GIVE QATAR 3+1 BERTHS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! :mad:
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    ^^

    +1
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    if that happens
    pomkiak can take my mod status. :(
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    me assure pomkiatisuk is the panda 55555.
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    never say no to thailand football!
  23. teammellieIRANfan

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    >>commodo dragon so horney love panda long time<<

    best job ntg. susu thailand 55555
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    For future ACL's, or at least the next one, CSL should lose their 0.5 spot and just have 3 places. Give the 0.5 spot to another nation who would like it. Poor form that the 4th CSL team is doing this.
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    Says the Japanese :rolleyes:

    They shouldn't be forcing professional clubs to take part in a mostly semi-professional tournament. Iran is guaranteed to have one club in the AFC Cup. IRAN is GUARANTEED ONE CLUB in the AFC CUP, AND possibly MORE. WHAT. THE. FCUK. is the AFC Cup?

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    Also, they shouldn't have such skewed distribution of clubs. Lioning stated possible AFC Cup participation as their main reason for forfeiting. If Pohang wasn't one of the clubs involved in the playoffs, would they have quit so willingly? I can understand why they want to value the quality of the league, but at some point [among top leagues], the level of success and the quantity of achievement have to top the level of the league for distributional differentiation purposes.

    Name one Japanese club that would willingly participate in the AFC Cup. You couldn't if your life depended on it.

    There are people in this thread claiming the need for big names in AFC Cup for the sake of bridging the gap and sportsmanship. If bridging the gap and 'sportsmanship'--whatever this means--were such important factors on sending Champions League quality teams into a second tier tournament, then shouldn't Japan and Qatar, the two best leagues according to AFC, be sending clubs to the AFC Cup as well? Shit, if you two are so great you should serve as ambassadors to AFC's bridging the gap project. You can start by each sending five clubs to the AFC Cup.

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