2012/14 Shinji Kagawa @ Manchester United (ENG/CL) Thread [R]

teioh, that things happened and with Nagatomo?

 

How could Zaccheroni not be in contact with Inter and Milan anyway?

 

From internet official or para official clubs communities, real life discussions and even TV shows. What do you need more to have a full picture of the situation? Big Soccer Japan community feelings? I hope so but it never counts.

 

http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/spo...ali_80494a02-3d3f-423f-ac32-425ebbff1a8b.html

Is it reliable dax ?

If Zac leaves, please JFA take Bielsa.

 

I don't know about Yuto, but Naka did state that Serie A was rather racist towards him. Not like Scotland proved much better in that regard.
Anyway getting back on topic...

Perhaps a gordon question, but what would make Kagawa "difficult to buy" at this point? Let alone worth trading a quality player like Kovacic plus cash ? I mean, I rate Shinji highly... but I would think his market value has plummeted at this juncture.
That said, ManU won't be letting him go anywhere unless/until they sign another Asian player. He was their replacement for Park...

 

He's been linked with Inter since the last transfer window I guess

 

He is too good to be a shirt-seller imo. His technical skills are above Park.

 

Are, but scotch has right, unfortunately.

 

Yes Kagawa is way better then Park but you can compare them cause the are different types of player and Park is also realy good, he was a beast at Untited,one of the most important players there.

 

Park dumbed down his game for what United expected of him. He was capable of much more but they were not willing to believe in an Asian player as a playmaker. I'm not waving the race card here, I'm just saying Park was very successful and team-oriented but not in a way that showcased what he was truly capable of, in my opinion. In that sense, he was underrated. As you all know I am no fan of Korea but Park deserves not to be underestimated. Kagawa may intrinsically have more vision and flair than Park but it's hard to know because he does not have the physical tools to take the option Park took at United of dumbing down his game; if he can't make it as a creative engine he won't make it at all.

 

I think you are simplifying things a bit here. SAF was the one who signed him and he was the one who actually used him unless he was injured, implicating the introduction of a change of system. To say this after Moyes took over who has a more conservative playstyle in mind is like interpreting the outcome instead of the reason. Also, I think if Kagawa wanted to leave, he would have had the chance last summer and this winter.

Asian market may play a role, but it's never the priority for a club of this stature. Not with Kagawa, not with Park. A player who isn't regarded good enough to play for them isn't helping shirt sales or getting new sponsors anyway.

 

I'm definitely over-simplifying, but ManU has kept at least 1 Asian player in the club for quite awhile and is definitely a hallmark of the Glazer ownership period. International interests of several sponsors has also been at the forefront of this push to have at least 1 Asian player on the squad at all time.
Sometimes players that the manager clearly had little to no interest in, though not necessarily the case (as you point out in Alex and Shinji).
I even remember a famiresu chain in Japan that randomly had ManU stuff (and only ManU stuff) all over the place. Including merchandise like tshirts, coffee mugs, etc. It was like entering a twilight zone. I want to say it was Skylark, but by memory is shady as we only went there once or twice and it was out in the suburbs.

 

Rooney injured wont be ok for Newcastle game and questionable for Bayern one

 

Would hurt Kagawa imo. he plays better with Wayne than with RVP.

 

I agree Kagawa and especially United

 

Starts vs New Castle

 

Assist but Chicharito hits the post.

 

Launches the second goal.

 

Good game so far.

 

New miss of Chicharito after a good pass from Kagawa.

He's cursed

 

Assist, finally xD

 

who scored?

 

Chicha.

 

Plays as midfielder with Fletcher now.