2012-13 Season Run-in Thread[R]

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Father Ted, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Not sure pgr.
     
  2. pgr17

    pgr17 Member+

    Sep 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    they are. squads to be announced shortly.
     
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  3. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nothing now, but in future:

    1. Ask UEFA to put the last 16 of the Champs League back to how it used to be, across two weeks instead of split across four (lol). That's what's largely caused the FA Cup being a pain to fit in the last few years.

    2. Schedule the season so that some of the blank midweeks earlier in the season have matches, freeing up more dates for later if they need them.

    3. Make the season longer. Start earlier or finish later.
     
  4. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    Republic of Mancunia don't like options 2 and 3, because you want more deciding/meaningful games to take part in late stages of the season. And making the season longer may be an option in odd years, but when you have Euros or World Cup, that's not going to work anyway.
    1 is reasonable, but tbh, I like the fact that we have good European games for a good month starting in February and by mid march still have quarters, semis and final to go.
     
  5. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Get rid of replays in all rounds?

    I don't like the idea, but it's not that long ago that Giggs scored the last ever semi final replay goal so they are willing to change the structure of the tournament. Also not such a stretch back to the times of second and third replays. In terms of fairness to both sides no semi replay works as it's on a neutral venue to begin with, in the other rounds it's seen as though the away side has earned a re-match at their ground after a draw. I do like that although League Cup matches are ended in one night no matter what so they might just go with it in the FA Cup in future too.

    Speak to the government/police about scheduling replays 3/4 days after the original tie? It used to be the case that they'd take place with that kind of turnaround until the police said they needed more time to arrange stuff. Throw money at them to pay for overtime etc. if you need to, it's not like football isn't loaded. Whilst I don't want to compromise fan safety, you could maybe get some of the earlier rounds out of the way quicker, giving more free dates later. Haven't looked at the exact scheduling, but I'm sure you could somehow gain an extra date or two through that.

    Stud83 I see your point about less big games in the run in, at least for league games. If it was done you'd likely be playing slightly more league games pre-Christmas, less after. Bad for those who want the league games to come thick and fast in an exciting run in, but possibly good for those who are always looking for the FA Cup to regain prominence as you'd have more weeks that were exclusively about the cup. Over time, the cup matches might become bigger in people's minds again.

    With that in mind, and considering I lol'ed at the prospect of UEFA giving up tv time for the champs league, I can't see the Prem voluntarily stepping back a little either. It's a shame all these competitions are at war with each other.
     
  6. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    A couple more ideas. Scrap the Community Shield and/or League Cup. I wouldn't like to see the latter go, and there are only 4 teams involved post Christmas anyway so there's no major clash with the FA Cup, but it would free up dates and allow a major overhaul of the season.
     
  7. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    In all honesty, this is much ado about nothing. You want to compete for multiple trophies? You need a deep squad. There should be an advantage to be gained by smaller clubs who don't have to compete in the league when they make it late into cups.
     
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  8. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I am repping you now so I can un-rep you later :D
     
  9. pgr17

    pgr17 Member+

    Sep 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    ‏@nickcoppack - United/Chelsea v Man City FA Cup semi-final on Sunday 14 April, kick-off 16:00 GMT.

    if we do advance to this game (which is at Wembley), that would bump Stoke away which was on the 15th.
     
  10. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

    Staff Member

    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    now imagine the confusion if we were still in the Champions League as well
     
  11. thefly

    thefly Member

    Aug 9, 2007
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Magic number down to 12.
     
  12. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    13 to be out of reach.
     
  13. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    We have a 13+ differential in GD, unlikely that Citeh could make up the gap without erasing that so 13 it is.
     
  14. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    If we get 12 points that means we win 4 lose 5, or win 3 draw 3 lose 3, depending on how we lose and win GD can evaporate.
     
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  15. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    95- Highest point total ever (Chelsea)
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  16. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    I would like Sunderland to be relegated but can't see how.
     
  17. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Cant see it, will limp over the line, will finish with 36-39 points.
     
  18. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    my preference is qpr, sunderland and norwich.
     
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  19. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    [​IMG]
    Code:
    Manchester United        Manchester City
     
    March
    22 Internationals        22 Internationals
    26 Internationals        26 Internationals
    30 Sunderland(A)        30 Newcastle(H)
     
    April
    1 Chelsea(A) FAC
    8 Man City(H)            8 Man United(A)
    13 Man City FAC SF      13 Chelsea/Man United FAC SF
    14 Stoke City(A)        15 West Brom(H)
    17 West Ham(A)          17 Wigan(H)
    22 Aston Villa(H)        21 Tottenham Hotspur(A)
    28 Arsenal(A)            27 West Ham(H)
     
    May
    4 Chelsea(H)            4 Swansea (A)
    11 FA Cup Final          11 FA Cup Final
    12 Swansea(H)            12 Reading(A)
    19 West Brom(A)          19 Norwich(H)
    
    Updated
     
  20. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Surely there will be a change of date between the Sunderland and Chelsea class. Do we really play on Saturday, then Monday?
     
  21. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    its been confirmed, sat then mon games....
     
  22. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Great for us fans, bad for our team.
     
  23. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Chelsea have a game that same Sat, then us on Mon, then a Europa League match on Thursday, and then another match on Sat.
     
  24. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Oh don't worry, they have Torres.
     
  25. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    and lulz...
     
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