2012/13 Keisuke Honda @ CSKA Moscow (RUS/EL) Thread [R]

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1. Hulk was just sold for 50-60 mils Euros details are unknown, what do clubs who had him in Japan must be thinking right now...ok he was a trouble maker but...do they now realize what kind of value they have on their hands sometime

2. Hulk and Witsel both went to Zenit for about 100 mils € worth
Do you still find Russian league crappy? Do you think they will become prisoners to, or do you believe it's has a lot to do with money...than a question is...is Honda getting loads to?

 

Drogba and Anelka are both old men in compare.Russian League has veeeeery strong players at the moment and increase and increase. There is really a progress to follow and when this league can step up more I think in 3-4 years they are in the top 5 of best leagues.​

 

Dax_ you are comparing apples and pears, you know that?

1. Drogba Del Pierro, Anelka, what is their age?

2. What is the age of Hulk and Witsel?

3. wages aside...for how much money were Drogba and Anelka bought?


From those three points you see the difference. Sure they all like money, majority of footballers do...but this is something else, this must be about playing Champions league on regular basis, this is about progress, looks like Zenit has some huge project going on, just like PSG, Man City and the league itself is strong, this just confirms it.

And that aside, I was just generally asking, what is he making in CSKA?

Also a sub question, how would you guys have liked it if he was to now join Zenit along this two guys?



Also I am sure loads dont know as it is not exactly official but the word is, that Putting is making sure that Gazprom's president injects financial injections into Zenit every year.
Similar to how he makes sure that Abramovič injects it into CSKA

 

Anzhi has loads of money, they were in pursuit of big name signings and great players, yet they didn't manage to get them, because the team is not strong enough yet. So a bit older players like Eto'o and Samba for instance have signed.
But when they tried to get guys like Hazard and even Hulk...
they failed

They dont play CL, they are not yet strong enough. Future is stil uncertain for the players. But saying Zenit is all about money... I dont think so.

It will be interesting to see how that CL group will resolve

Zenit or AC Milan? Atm I am leaning towards Zenit


P.S. Dax in Russian league you have to fight for the title trust me. CSKA just made a flop and failed big time, they are still a reall good team and quite some of Russian other teams as well. I am sure Spartak Moscow will prove it in the CL
Although me myself would also rather Honda goes to PL even if it means for Liverpool

 

Well there is a huge difference between Bayern and every other team in Germany as well, but still Dolrtmund and other teams are good enough to cause them problems

Zenit isnt that far from CSKA in fact CSKA is considered the "biggest" team in Russian league atm even though this wasnt exactly their year

 

well its like Liverpool is considered a bigger team than Newcastle, but Newcastle may again be on top of them in the league

bigger team isnt always a better one, at least not rank wise

 

Honda mentioned that he would also do the same if given the opportunity to flash 'Dokdo is our land' card.

http://sports.news.nate.com/view/20120906n27297?pcview=1

Well, Honda is getting a lot of kudos for defending park Jong woo's action after that bronze medal game. In the article he mention that he is fiercely loyal to Japan and sees not many Japanese doing the same compare to korean. Honda says park Jong woo love his country and would do the same(for japan) if he was in the same situation.


Other than Honda being Japanese, there's no reason to hate this guy as a person. Much respect for Honda.

 

This.

 

Well I think you got to understand the kind of situation one may in before throwing him under the bus. Now, the two nations are in heated dispute over Dokdo island especially this time around. And park Jong woo's action or reaction was to say to Japan 'hey, enough is enough'. And for Honda's he understood that. And especially now, the conversation is more heated about this particular topic, I don't think any player would dare say anything and would rather keep it themselves. And of course, if anyone to flash a card with that message, you're bound to provoke some ppl. But what Honda just shown me with that comment, that he's willing to be a leader. He understood why park did what he did, and wouldn't hesitate to do the same under the same circumstances. And willing to take the heat knowing what park went through after the olympic games. Now, you can certainly take this as 'attention-grabbing, look at me me me' arrogant behavior. I don't really know Honda that much to judge him personally other than bleaching his hair would make look a certain way, but more and more stories about Honda i read that he loves his country and an honorable person all the way around. Again, much kudos from me to Honda.

 

Can we stop turning the Honda-thread into a political discussion, pleeeeeaaaaseeee?

 

He's an Honda declaration, nothing off-topic imo.

However the point is that IF Honda had show that cartel, than he would have been punished as well.
Cuz:

- It's against the olympic spirit;
- It's against the olympic rules;
- It's frankly an excuse to feed his ego and make a childish provocation.

I read something about Takeshima/Dokdo and it's an uninhabited island, nothing like Park hometown or WWII victims homeland and so on. So it seems to me only an excuse to make a provocation.

Probably if some days before the match Park had come to know that in the Pacific Ocean a small rock surrounded by the sea was contended between Japan and S.Korea, he would have flash a cartel with written "That nameless rock in the Pacific Ocean is korean", understand?

 

Just give those rocks to Argentina and we're fine.

 

the argument was not about whether the olympic stage was the proper place to show and hold up a sign like park did. honda was commenting 'what he would under the same circumstances.' for park, the message of the sign was the basic sentiment of the entire nation. for us koreans, 'hey japan, leave us alone with our land'. and japanese government have been relentless not willing to let go. imagine the situation is reserved and how would you feel about ? i would imagine you would do the same as well. and i think that was honda was saying all along. ego ? selfish ? hey guys look at me with bleach blonde hair ? sure. But also understanding and thoughtful. i really appreciate honda's comment.

 

heyhey, please stop.

 

http://www.soccer-king.jp/sk_column/article/70782.html

I haven't read through all of the that but damn, future Prime Minister of Japan
But honestly - how often you encounter a footballer like that?

 

Honda scored.

 

2nd goal

 

Professor Honda

He's great.