2012/13 Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'Australian A-League' started by Yoshou, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator Staff Member

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    Another season, another thread on the attendance. First off, may I say, it is damn good not to have to worry about Gold Coast United from an attendance standpoint. Even though it is just one game, the Wanderers attendance would be the second best game that GCU ever got and it was a steep drop from there for GCU. Hopefully the Wanderers are able to not only keep their attendance at a reasonable proximity to the 10k they got, but build on it.

    Other than that, this was a pretty good opening weekend for A-League, primarily thanks to starting off with a Melbourne Derby and it's 42k+ attendance. Factoring out the Melbourne game and this would be the second lowest attendance for an opening weekend, but, of course, you can't do that.

    I'm also trying out BS's new table format for the first time, so here is hoping it works:

    Round 1 numbers:
    TeamAttendance
    Victory42,032
    Wellington12,057
    Western Sydney10,458
    Perth14,085
    Newcastle14,868
    Total93500
    Average18,700

    AAQ with 3.7% of the season complete:
    SeasonAverageMedian%<7k%>16kAvg PtsMed Pts<7k Pts>16k PtsAAAQAAAQ Rnk
    2005/0614999131600%33.3%45520671635
    2006/0714564157810%33.3%50150671313
    2007/0814598168280%66.7%49000491
    2008/0914270160220%66.7%531100652
    2009/10136311384720%40%6142100532576
    2010/11103919764.516.7%16.7%100100831003838
    2011/12159701246720%20%3362100932887
    2012/1318700140850%20%0390931324

    Average by Round:
    Round2005/062006/072007/082008/092009/102010/112011/122012/13Grand Total
    1175521574114554133311363110810159701870015007
    211181145841699496701213090451111811973
    37921589710135135859153105121759210853
    41165115024148281287086746624733110666
    512031883212291950283616571127289965
    683661265815131112811200810018965511193
    712087992812442120011008448011392710459
    81051614910100779818619887451156310080
    9121751426015352147361252910465933412507
    101040098241830812294122387359858410914
    11929912580111491014568918868104409827
    1210143152351637111396974684781136211438
    1313204964010709752272508641111079792
    147276149601561182339632676488039813
    151086010528145211395780487965954310350
    16975120003144159901100345936825910516
    1711746116811388415627798168541145610815
    1810146116431711217379617083511262611441
    199602119411388411006113597635958410508
    2095231554621171145051068710645954112750
    211462716259175811704498709643653312377
    227097899490868463
    23119907890104889983
    241059111624789510223
    259487779192948732
    261087549537230
    27126371412213379
    Grand Total1095512937145961218198288400104971870010927


  2. el-capitano

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    Looking good! :)
  3. djpower

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    If you don't mind I thought I would mention the TV Ratings which look very impressive the first round matches hit a averaged over 100,000 viewers and was 38 per cent higher than the corresponding fixtures last year. http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...s-and-tv-ratings/story-e6frf4gl-1226491853677

    Melbourne Victory vs Melbourne Heart 129,000
    West Sydney vs Central Coast 124,000
    Wellington vs Sydney 109,000
    Perth vs Brisbane 102,000
    Newcastle vs Adelaide 77,000
  4. Zednaught

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    Good news considering that the TV rights will be negotiated shortly.

    New Zealand figures aren't included in the TV rights so the 109,000 was basically just Sydney support which is good.

    I'd expect both Sydney teams as well as the Victory to consistently hit the 100k mark for TV rights. Though it does help that NSW has much higher rates of pay TV take up then the three southern states.


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    VERY INTERESTING !!
  6. Yoshou

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    How does that compare to other sporting events in Australia? That's pretty close to what MLS gets in the US on NBCSN, but we've got something like 15 times your population.
  7. Zednaught

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    The domestic twenty20 league (runs December and January) had average TV ratings of just over 250k on average last year with the highest games near 500k. Cricket however does benefit from being the only truly national sport as well as having household figures. Shane Warne and Ricky Ponting would be the biggest names in Australian sport.

    The figures are slightly less then super rugby tv ratings.

    AFL and NRL are shown free to air as well as on foxtel. Foxtel tv rates would be higher then the cricket for both, with the NRL higher then the AFL.

    SA and WA and to a lesser extent Victoria have a low takeup of Foxtel though.

    The TV rights deals for all these sports are all much higher then for the A-League so an increase in the next TV rights deal is warranted.
  8. Yoshou

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    So, in other words, those are quite good ratings. That is excellent news.
  9. Zednaught

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    Pretty much. Especially when you include the crowd figures. The Melbourne derby had over 100k people watching and over 40k at the ground.
  10. djpower

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    I would not say only Sydney supporters watched would of also been neutrals who was interested in the hype Sydney has created but your right Sky NZ figures are not included but would be interested to see how their ratings compare to Foxtel.

    This time of year before the domestic T20 cricket comp starts ratings look very impressive on Friday night the Melbourne derby won the night on subscription television, Saturday A-league rated 1st and 2nd with Man City match coming in 3rd with 95,000 it seemed like the only EPL game to rate on the weekend and with daylight savings pushing EPL further into the night it will begin to struggle breaking into the top programs. Sunday not as good Perth vs Brisbane came in 2nd behind Rugby Union and Newcastle vs Adelaide came in 7th.

    Dipping into the ratings from time to time last session it seemed like matches were not rating much over 80,000 at the high end and their was matches around 40,000 probably some below. So I am hoping this 100,000+ is not just a round 1 buzz factor and they can continue to at least get the big games to hover around the 100,000 mark.
  11. Yoshou

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    Looking like good numbers in Sydney for SFC vs Newcastle. Very nice.
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  12. djpower

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    Adelaide United vs Western Sydney Wanderer
    crowd: 8,950
    tv: 90,000

    Sydney FC vs Newcastle Jets
    crowd: 35,419
    tv: 156,000

    Brisbane Roar vs Melbourne Victory
    crowd: 17,364
    tv: 101,000

    Melbourne Heart vs Wellington Phoenix
    crowd: 10,907
    tv: 73,000

    Central Coast Mariners vs Perth Glory
    crowd: 9,192
    tv: 78,000
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  13. Gold is the Colour

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    Average crowd of 16,366 - according to Yoshou's table above that's the 2nd highest 2nd round average for the A-League - still looking good.

    Unfortunately for Perth, the year where we seem to have finally got it sorted and should be increasing crowds - NIB stadium is being redeveloped and will be reduced capacity all season.:(
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    This might actually be a blessing for the Glory. A limited supply means that fans have more incentive to buy tickets, or they can lose them to the quicker mate. And if the team's performance makes the tickets a valuable commodity, the demand will rise and when the stadium is finally expanded, the demand is higher than before. Cf. Houston Dynamo.
  15. Yoshou

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    More good news from Sydney... This time from the Wanderer's camp:

    http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/sydney-derby-sold-out/50405

    According to the ever reliable Wikipedia, that's around 21k. Excellent.
  16. Yoshou

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    It is crazy early in the season and the teams are still working their way through their first games, but so far, so good. With the Melbourne Derby last week and Sydney FC getting their best regular season attendance in their history, this season is kicking some serious butt. Not only that, but we got good numbers from the Roar and Heart this week. On a two week basis, there is a lot to be excited about this season with regards to attendance.

    TeamAttendance
    Adelaide8,950
    Sydney FC35,419
    Brisbane17,364
    Heart10,907
    Central Coast9,192
    Total81,832
    Average16,366


    SeasonAverageMedian%<7k%>16kAvg PtsMed Pts<7k Pts>16k PtsAAAQAAAQ Rnk
    2005/061517612136.50%33.3%313800693
    2006/071239011542.516.7%33.3%67496701836
    2007/0813583143270%33.3%52000522
    2008/0912189107240%33.3%7063001334
    2009/101288111935.510%30%614240141575
    2010/119890860725%16.7%100100100713718
    2011/121354411420.510%10%5251401002437
    2012/1317533130710%30%022014361


    Round2005/062006/072007/082008/092009/102010/112011/122012/13Grand Total
    1175521574114554133311363110810159701870015007
    21118114584169949670121309045111181636612584
    37921589710135135859153105121759210853
    41165115024148281287086746624733110666
    512031883212291950283616571127289965
    683661265815131112811200810018965511193
    712087992812442120011008448011392710459
    81051614910100779818619887451156310080
    9121751426015352147361252910465933412507
    101040098241830812294122387359858410914
    11929912580111491014568918868104409827
    1210143152351637111396974684781136211438
    1313204964010709752272508641111079792
    147276149601561182339632676488039813
    151086010528145211395780487965954310350
    16975120003144159901100345936825910516
    1711746116811388415627798168541145610815
    1810146116431711217379617083511262611441
    199602119411388411006113597635958410508
    2095231554621171145051068710645954112750
    211462716259175811704498709643653312377
    227097899490868463
    23119907890104889983
    241059111624789510223
    259487779192948732
    261087549537230
    27126371412213379
    Grand Total1095512937145961218198288400104971753310962
  17. Zednaught

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    I still prefer nib to Subi.
  18. Gold is the Colour

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    As would I, Subi is horrible. Just dissappointing that Perth will have low crowds despite probably going close to selling out most games.
  19. Zednaught

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    On the other hand good atmosphere at games as well as good performance should set Perth up for next year.

    I go to a few Perth games a year and at times it was depressing when the Glory were playing average football in a half empty stadium.
  20. djpower

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    crowds still remain decent but tv ratings taken a bit of a dip :( , I thought the NSW derbies would of rated a little higher and the 2 Sunday games are starting to drop back to last years standards

    Melbourne Victory vs Adelaide United
    crowd: 19,174
    tv: 102,000

    Newcastle Jets vs Central Coast Mariners
    crowd: 15,289
    tv: 78,000

    Western Sydney Wanderers vs Sydney FC
    crowd: 19,126
    tv: 102,000

    Wellington Phoenix vs Brisbane Roar
    crowd: 9,182
    tv: 58,000

    Perth Glory vs Melbourne Heart
    crowds: 7,548
    tv: 67,000
  21. Zednaught

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    Were people watching the Wallabies vs All Blacks?
  22. djpower

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    236,000 on Fox Sports 3
    496,000 channel 9 (Melbroune, Sydney, Brisbane)
    45,000 GEM (Adelaide and Perth)
  23. Zednaught

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    Quite possibly people decided to watch it instead of the A-League.
  24. djpower

    djpower Moderator Staff Member

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    Being from Victoria I didn't even know it was on :)
  25. Zednaught

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    As a Western Australian I only noticed that my Kiwi mate was depressed. I quickly became and strong Wallabies fan who watched every minute of the game. (and then I find out that we drew and didn't win)

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