[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSiy83XJoko[/ame] On a more serious note, I do think Kobe might one day make a good coach. We know that he's a self-proclaimed student of the game who is very much interested in the proverbial X's & O's. And he has a very strong personality. The one thing you always have to wonder about these superstars is how well they can work with people who aren't quite as talented as they were.
As a Spurs fan, i would like to avoid Dallas in the first round. Yes, the Mavericks have been pretty inconsistent, but they are still the champs! I'd prefer to play Houston, Denver, or even the Suns! Bring on the Lakers!!!! Timmy will have a big game tonight!
Interesting - I just listen to Colin Cowherd say how bad he would be, and I sorta tend to agree. The best coaches seem to be people who were okay players or cerebral guys who didn't play. Kobe doesn't have to think about x's & o's as much because ordinary rules don't apply to players like that.
No because they would have choked each other after every practice I also think Rose and Shaq in his prime would have done alright too. AI may have the edge in durability and defense, but I still think chemistry is underrated and Rose has him beat by a lot there.
To me, any team but Memphis or OKC - in the West. Kobe would remind me of Roy Keane. While they currently/were both prolific players and I worship both of them, I do not know how they can handle not being on a winning team. They exert certain personality and standard to hold against their own, and I just do not think that being a mid table or lower end team would bring out the best of their coaching status. Nonetheless, they are perfect and undisputed best team captains, but that does not necessarily mean that they would be great coaches. DK - yes, indeed. Some of the best players never turn out to be the best coaches and same goes for the opposite. So far in the AI vs Rose argument, we have been on the same wavelength. Rose in his prime was on the Lakers team (I guess we can say without Kobe) or if prime Shaq was on the current Bulls... get outta here. I would predict a few rings.
AI isn't as bad a teammate as people make him out to be. He's a bit like Mike Vick- not popular to people on the outside looking in, but inside the locker room it is a different story.
Do you have a basis for saying that? Not saying you're wrong as I don't remember otherwise, but sounds like "practice" might have been a little bit of an issue. But I mainly meant on the court chemistry. Jordan sounded like a pain in the butt off the court, but he passed to guys like Pax, and his teams played like a cohesive unit. I don't remember that about Iversens teams. Often ugly one man shows.
I was initially going to ask you the same question, in regards to Iverson's character and the chemistry thing. When AI was in his prime, he never had any John Paxons, Steve Kerr's, Kukoc's , Pippens, to pass to.
I don't buy that - he may not have had Pippens, but Paxons and Kerrs aren't unusual talents that can't be found. AI was a me first scoring guard - Jordan learned to adjust his game to make the team better, I don't think AI really did.
Come on, look at this. http://www.nba.com/games/20010606/PHILAL/boxscore.html He had players like Eric Snow, a young Raja Bell, Aaron McKie, Matt Geiger etc. None of those guys are real scoring options. Those Paxons and co may not be unusual, but they certainly were not on this 76ers team. Jordan definitely did adjust his game, but you cant make bum players better. His supporting cast were all skilled specialist. Its easier to get guys who are good at atleast one thing involved. What about Jordan with the Wizards? How much better did he make them? Not much you can do without much talent. AI never did, but while he was at his best he never had a cast that was trust worthy.
Kobe as a coach? I think he'd have the Ted Williams syndrome--- getting way too frustrated with his players who simply don't have his talent and game IQ. It's probably why Jordan doesn't coach. I think the recent record the Bulls had without Rose goes to show how much the Thibs system works. Thibs instills the chemistry in that team as much as Rose, if not more so.
Okay - I have to concede that's a pretty crappy team he took to the finals. Dikembe was decent player though.
Kind of a small sample size though - and this is a screwy season. I'd be interested to see how many rounds they would go in the playoffs without Rose.
That was a really really weak Eastern conference. Yes indeed, but I would not want to test the waters with them.
That Philly team was crap. When you think about all the talent that has never made a final -- say, Phoenix with Nash and Marion and Stoudemire in his prime -- it's quite astonishing that Philly advanced to the final. Junk players, Theo Ratcliffe was the #2 scorer. AI carried that team on his back, like him or not he gets credit for that.
to me ai clearly > rose atm maybe of rose wins a ring or 2 i will conceed but ai was on another level
Entertaining but disappointing game for the Mavs yesterday. Dirk was 40/9 and made a clutch 3 to take it to the 3rd OT, but it wouldn't have gone to the 1st OT if he had boxed out properly on a rebound. Also the last shot of the game was a very poorly planned play.
Johan Cruijff did alright as a manager and he was pretty much the Kobe of soccer in terms of his relationship with coaches and team mates. My point is that more than one type of coach can succeed and Kobe has a couple of attributes that could help him prevail. Of course, that doesn't mean anything is guaranteed.
BTW, I think AI's reputation has now swung too far back to the negative side due to somewhat sad ending to his career. I think a lot of the behavior fans found abhorrent was an indirect result of what happened to him as a teen. I know I came out of Steve James' movie having a very different opinion of him as a human being.
In a good or bad way? I don't know that movie. I personally didn't care that much about the teen stuff, but I think you're right that some viewed him as a thug.
Well my personal perspective was that whatever transpired at that bowling alley, he was done a huge disservice by the justice system. And it probably changed him as a person for good. Not wanting to play amateur psychologist here, but I think you can also tie it to his trust issues in terms of coaches and team mates.
garnett has a gun charge doesnt he? alot of nba players come from shitty backgrounds and do dumb things ai was so gifted for his size, better than rose imo