2011/12 Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'Australian A-League' started by Yoshou, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. zhuangzi

    zhuangzi Member

    Feb 7, 2008
    Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    It was at a regional venue (Morwell) and clearly wasn't properly advertised.
     
  2. Zednaught

    Zednaught Member

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Adelaide United
    I'd also question why Morwell (a town of about 15,000 people) was picked ahead of a Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo or Albury-Wodonga.

    Hell, given that Campbelltown counts as regional, should have played in Dandenong.
     
  3. zhuangzi

    zhuangzi Member

    Feb 7, 2008
    Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
  4. djpower

    djpower Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 9, 2005
    Victoria, Australia
    That was the figure that Win News was reporting last night, as the report went they were slightly disappointed with the crowd but noted that it was played at the same time as some of the local leagues were played and they had some local players competing in some championship in Mildura. Some lame excuses but I think that is a reasonable crowd for a regional area that has no real connection with the Heart apart from it being in the same state
    I agree with you personally I would of like it to be in Central Victoria (Bendigo) and see how many people they could attract from the other surrounding major centers but I think the reason why Morwell was chosen because they have a football background and they had a side in the NSL (as shown above), and they probably have some local people around that was really pushes for top flight football to return to the region, although the population itself is small the Latrobe City area has a population of 75,259 (according to wiki) with the majority in Traralgon (21,960) which is 14 km a way to the east and Moe has a population of 15,582 which is 21 km away to the west.
     
  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was going to wait for the second Sydney game, but it looks like it has been postponed, so here is week 9's numbers:

    Is it too early to call this season a resounding success in the turn around of the league? Clearly some of the neutral ground venues didn't work out as well as one would hope, but there have also been some resounding successes. Not only that, but the teams seem to be taking turns seeing who can put up big numbers. This week it was the Jets dropping an impressive 17k. Sadly it was couple with the Heart not even getting 3,000 people to show up at their neutral venue game. Not to worry Heart, with how poorly Gold Coast is playing this year, you can almost guarantee they'll get at least one game with lower attendance than what the Heart put up.

    Code:
    Adelaide   8437
    Perth      6484
    Newcastle 17245
    Heart      2951
    Sydney FC 11555
    Total     46672
    Average    9334
    
    Code:
    Season  Average  Median  %<7k  %>16k  AvgPts  MedPts  <7kPts  >16kPts  AAAQ  AAAQRnk
    2005/06  11541  10419     18%   18%     42      39      37       40     159     4
    2006/07  11809   8612     21%   25%     37      75      47        0     159     4
    2007/08  13768  12345      4%   25%      0       0       0        0       0     1
    2008/09  11748  10724     14%   21%     38      33      28       20     119     2
    2009/10  10308   9408     27%   13%     66      59      60       66     251     6
    2010/11   8485   7370     42%    7%    100     100     100      100     400     7
    2011/12  12123  10374     24%   20%     31      40      55       28     154     3
    Code:
    Round 2005/06  2006/07  2007/08  2008/09  2009/10  2010/11  2011/12   Grand
    1      17552    15741    14554    13331    13631    10810    15970    14412
    2      11181    14584    16994     9670    12130     9045    11154    11979
    3       7921     5897    10135    13585     9153    10512    17502    10838
    4      11651    15024    14828    12870     8674     6624     7331    10666
    5      12031     8832    12291     9502     8361     6571    12728     9965
    6       8366    12658    15131    11281    12008    10018     9601    11184
    7      12087     9928    12442    12001    10084     4801    13927    10459
    8      10516    14910    10077     9818     6198     8745    11563    10080
    9      12175    14260    15352    14736    12529    10465     9334    12507
    10     10400     9824    18308    12294    12238     7359             11431
    11      9299    12580    11149    10145     6891     8868              9705
    12     10143    15235    16371    11396     9746     8478             11452
    13     13204     9640    10709     7522     7250     8641              9322
    14      7276    14960    15611     8233     9632     6764              9994
    15     10860    10528    14521    13957     8048     7965             10552
    16      9751    20003    14415     9901    10034     5936             11000
    17     11746    11681    13884    15627     7981     6854             10701
    18     10146    11643    17112    17379     6170     8351             11229
    19      9602    11941    13884    11006    11359     7635             10679
    20      9523    15546    21171    14505    10687    10645             13344
    21     14627    16259    17581    17044     9870     9643             13676
    22                                          7097     8994              8203
    23                                         11990     7890              9754
    24                                         10591    11624             11193
    25                                          9487     7791              8498
    26                                         10875     4953              7230
    27                                         12637    14122             13379
    Grand  10955    12937    14596    12181     9828     8400    12123    11034
    
     
  6. Zednaught

    Zednaught Member

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Adelaide United
    Perth have being pretty disapointing this year.
     
  7. Blake8

    Blake8 Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    Sydney
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Perth is a joke, the city I mean, they have so much mineral wealth over there, and they cant build even one decent 20,000 seat rectangular stadium, they would pull twice as many with a state of the art comfort stadia to watch in.
     
  8. Zednaught

    Zednaught Member

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Adelaide United
    As a sandgroper I don't want to get into a debate about Canberra and GST allocations.

    The stadium has very little to do with the Glory's crowds.
     
  9. zhuangzi

    zhuangzi Member

    Feb 7, 2008
    Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Glory have dished up seven years of utter mediocrity, it's a testament to the goodwill they generated in the first eight that anyone still turns up.
     
  10. Blake8

    Blake8 Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    Sydney
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I disagree, its an ancient looking piece of crap, and many more would come to watch if they were seated on the latest design cool comfortable stadium, WA is the richest state in Australia, but has very little care for Football, just stupid AFL that no one in the world gives a shit about, wake up WA, and get with it!
     
  11. jimbregas

    jimbregas Member

    May 20, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/9718788/barnett-confirms-stadium-for-burswood/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth_Stadium
    This will supposedly have retractable seating (22,000 according to wikipedia). The government will see this as an upgrade from nib stadium so I doubt any fresh money will be thrown to nib stadium or any other rectangular stadiums in Perth. I don't know much about the layout of Perth (where this is going to be located compared the nib stadium and transport nodes etc.) but it will have a direct train link.
     
  12. Blake8

    Blake8 Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    Sydney
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    ah jus AFL rubbish, I wud prefer to see a small 20,000 rectangular stadium that is just for Football.
     
  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unless the plans got started again and Wikipedia is wrong (shocking, I know), the plan to build the stadium was canceled...
     
  14. jimbregas

    jimbregas Member

    May 20, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
  15. Zednaught

    Zednaught Member

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Adelaide United
    As the resident Sandgroper allow me to comment.

    They have the wrong picture on the wiki article- stadium will be at Burswood and not Kitchner Park. The stadium will be next to the casino and across the bridge from East Perth (where the WACA is).
    As part of the plan, either the nearest train station will be expanded or a new one built.

    In unrelated works, the government is considering building a light rail system around Perth and there will be a stop for the Casino and new stadium.

    I will be very suprised if it has retractable seating- that part was only for the world cup bid and even then only an attempt to get cash out of Canberra.

    You aren't a sandgroper so they probably won't consider your opinion. The new stadium for AFL has to be made. If the Glory or the Force want a new stadium then they have to justify it by consistenly selling out nib Stadium. Melbourne Victory got their stadium by selling out the Olympic Park.
    Even at best, the Glory will have to share a stadium with the Force and a possible NRL team.

    That article is pretty bad. A stadium is being built in Burswood for a billion dollars but unfortunately is unlikely to have retractable seats.
    There is also a strong push for it to have the same dimensions as Subiaco Oval.

    It's a different plan than what was mooted during the world cup bid. The government always planned to build a stadium, but saw the world cup bid as a chance to get money from Canberra.
    Funding from the stadium will possibly come from bulldozing Subiaco- in which case the WAFC (aussie rules) will probably be given the lease for the new stadium and possibly some money from the AFL. The WACA aren't interested in being involved.

    In which case the stadium will almost certainly just be a state of the art, larger capacity and better located version of Subi.
     
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  16. zhuangzi

    zhuangzi Member

    Feb 7, 2008
    Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia

    Eh? But you go for the Reds. :confused:
     
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  17. Zednaught

    Zednaught Member

    Jan 11, 2011
    Club:
    Adelaide United
    When I was a boy I had difficulty supporting Perth Glory because they reminded me of Freo.
    I watched games as a neutral and ended up with an attachment to the Reds.
     
  18. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just as an FYI, my work has blown up on me and I haven't had the opportunity to set aside enough time to post the updates to the attendance. I have next week off, so I'll do a catch-up post then.
     
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  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Might as well go a full month without posting the attendance. :) I'll do the catch-up tomorrow after all the Wednesday games are completed.
     
  20. jimbregas

    jimbregas Member

    May 20, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Eh, you do enough work as is :) I think we'll all forgive you for taking a break ;)
     
  21. artml

    artml Member

    Liverpool FC
    Ukraine
    Jul 11, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Where are all the people in Wellington? A team is on fire, solidly placed in the playoff zone, and regularly delivers sparkling firework results as 5–2 over Jets or today's 4–2 Sydney thrashing. Still, the crowds are in the less-than-convincing 8K zone.
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not how attendance works. Fans aren't going to start showing up in numbers just because the Phoenix have done well in a couple of games. The Phoenix have been a fairly mediocre team. There have also been financial difficulties with the owners of the team. On the plus side, so far this season they are 2,500 over last years average, so at least they are headed in the right direction.
     
  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It hasn't been a bad month since I last updated the numbers after round 9. Round 10 was the only one that was below 10k which is certainly an improvement over the previous 2 seasons. Gold Coast still sucks, but they pulled in their best numbers of the year so far in their match-up against Brisbane in round 12. The Heart pulled in the highest numbers thanks to their derby match against the Victory. Additionally, Sydney FC got their best numbers of the season against the Heart, so apparently their hate is for all things Melbourne, not just the Victory. Sadly, the crowd was forced to watch a 4-0 shellacking, so that's not exactly going to help.

    Code:
    Sydney FC      16007
    Adelaide        9739
    Newcastle      10434
    Central Coast  14838
    Brisbane       14852
    Wellington      8411
    Heart           8272
    Newcastle       9311
    Perth           6912
    Central Coast  12284
    Total         111060
    Average        11106
    Code:
    Season   Average  Median  %<7k  %>16k   AvgPts   MedPts   <7kPts   >16kPts   AAAQ   AAAQRnk
    2005/06   11198   10939   20%    16%      47       27       41        47      163      4
    2006/07   12203   10694   20%    25%      28       32       41         0      102      2
    2007/08   13751   12279    5%    25%       0        0        0         0        0      1
    2008/09   11748   10613   11%    18%      37       34       18        36      124      3
    2009/10    9890    8456   34%    13%      71       78       76        64      289      6
    2010/11    8303    7355   43%     6%     100      100      100       100      400      7
    2011/12   11507   10251   27%    17%      41       41       58        42      182      5
    Code:
    Round 2005/06  2006/07  2007/08  2008/09  2009/10  2010/11  2011/12   Grand
    1      17552    15741    14554    13331    13631    10810    15970    14412
    2      11181    14584    16994     9670    12130     9045    11154    11979
    3       7921     5897    10135    13585     9153    10512    17502    10838
    4      11651    15024    14828    12870     8674     6624     7331    10666
    5      12031     8832    12291     9502     8361     6571    12728     9965
    6       8366    12658    15131    11281    12008    10018     9601    11184
    7      12087     9928    12442    12001    10084     4801    13927    10459
    8      10516    14910    10077     9818     6198     8745    11563    10080
    9      12175    14260    15352    14736    12529    10465     9334    12507
    10     10400     9824    18308    12294    12238     7359     8584    10914
    11      9299    12580    11149    10145     6891     8868    10422     9824
    12     10143    15235    16371    11396     9746     8478    11362    11438
    13     13204     9640    10709     7522     7250     8641    11106     9792
    14      7276    14960    15611     8233     9632     6764              9994
    15     10860    10528    14521    13957     8048     7965             10552
    16      9751    20003    14415     9901    10034     5936             11000
    17     11746    11681    13884    15627     7981     6854             10701
    18     10146    11643    17112    17379     6170     8351             11229
    19      9602    11941    13884    11006    11359     7635             10679
    20      9523    15546    21171    14505    10687    10645             13344
    21     14627    16259    17581    17044     9870     9643             13676
    22                                          7097     8994              8203
    23                                         11990     7890              9754
    24                                         10591    11624             11193
    25                                          9487     7791              8498
    26                                         10875     4953              7230
    27                                         12637    14122             13379
    Grand  10955    12937    14596    12181     9828     8400    11507    11013
     
  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On a related note, does anyone have a good source for the attendance figures? The league site has become very spotty in reporting the numbers, so much so that I was only able to get half of Wednesday's games from there and had to rely upon the ever "reliable" Wikipedia for the remainder. I would ask the Wikipedia posters, but it looks like the attendance figures are being updated by random IP addresses rather than regular posters. I've checked Fox Sports and they are rather spotty as well, rarely relying upon weaving the attendance figure into the prose somewhere.
     
  25. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Sydney
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    When I used to do it back in the day (i'm glad to hand the baton over :D) I used to use the official A-League site, failing that- then try news articles in the home teams official page, then try media reports in smh, sbs world game, faily telegraph etc. :eek:

    If the official site is failing to mention them regularly- that's pretty poor. ;)
     

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