2011-12 Attendance Analysis

2,578 according to Goal.com. Not sure where they got it though ...

Seattle - 15,866
Morelia - 15,000
Motagua - 14,000
Santos - 6,000
UNAM - 5,522
Dallas - 2,578
Metapan - 2,020
Herediano - 200

Through Group Stage

Code:

Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
2008-09   5,508   4,619   51.6%   14.5%
2009-10   5,156   4,156   51.6%    7.8%
2010-11   6,229   4,677   51.6%   23.4%
2011-12   6,230   5,511   45.3%   20.3%

Historical Totals:

Code:

Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
2008-09   7,117   6,303   44.7%   23.7%
2009-10   6,806   5,461   46.2%   16.7%
2010-11   8,446   5,525   43.6%   35.9%

Average: 1 out of 4
Median: 1 out of 4
<5k%: 1 out of 4
>10k% 2 out of 4

AAQ: 1.25, improved from the last matchday's 1.5.

Average by federation:

United States - 8,231
Mexico - 8,066
Canada - 7,247
Costa Rica - 6,641
Honduras - 6,227
Nicaragua - 4,500
El Salvador - 3,232
Guatemala - 2,570
Panama - 1,136
Puerto Rico - 1,125
CFU - 863
Guyana - 600

Average by club:

Seattle - 14,320
Monterrey - 11,086
Olimpia - 10,644
Morelia - 10,067
Alajuelense - 9,825
Los Angeles - 8,517
Alianza - 7,301
Toronto - 7,247
Colorado - 6,146
Santos - 6,125
Motagua - 5,920
Real Espana - 5,165
Real Esteli - 4,500
UNAM - 4,301
Herediano - 4,252
Dallas - 3,491
Comunicaciones - 2,926
Isidro Metapan - 2,215
Municipal - 1,500
Tauro - 1,281
Puerto Rico - 1,125
San Francisco - 700
Alpha United - 600

Overall attendance: 398,723

Prelim. Round average: 6,038

Group Stage, first home match average: 5,043
Group Stage, second home match average: 6,653
Group Stage, third home match average: 7,186
Group Stage average: 6,294

Five highest attendances (2011-12 CCL only):
1) 21,233 - Seattle 2 - 0 (aet) San Francisco - August 3
2) 16,000 - Morelia 2 - 1 Los Angeles - September 13
3) 15,866 - Seattle 1 - 2 Monterrey - October 18
4) 15,000 - Morelia 2 - 1 Alajuelense - October 18
5) 14,000 - Motagua 0 - 1 Los Angeles - October 20

Five lowest attendances (2011-12 CCL only):
1) 200 - Herediano 4 - 1 Comunicaciones - October 19
2) 316 - Tauro 5 - 3 Dallas - September 28
3) 500 - Toronto 0 - 1 Dallas - August 25
4) 514 - Herediano 1 - 2 Seattle - September 14
5) 600 - Alpha United 2 - 2 Herediano - August 4

Five highest attendances (CCL history):
1) 55,271 - Montreal 2 - 0 Santos - February 25, 2009
2) 32,177 - UNAM 1 - 0 Cruz Azul - March 31, 2010
3) 30,247 - Monterrey 2 - 2 Salt Lake - April 20, 2011
4) 28,900 - Cruz Azul 5 - 0 UNAM - April 6, 2010
5) 26,500 - Pachuca 1 - 0 Cruz Azul - April 28, 2010

Five lowest attendances (CCL history):
1) 110 - Joe Public 1 - 4 Columbus - October 21, 2010
2) 192 - San Juan Jabloteh 0 - 1 Santos - July 27, 2010
3) 200 - Herediano 4 - 1 Comunicaciones - October 19, 2011
4) 253 - Brujas 2 - 2 Joe Public - July 28, 2010
T-5) 300 - San Francisco 2 - 3 L.A. Firpo - October 22, 2008
T-5) 300 - Puerto Rico 1 - 1 Columbus - October 20, 2009

If anyone wants any other numbers thrown at them, let me know.

In your opinion, how can we explain the fact that in the Champions Cup CONCACAF the public was more present than now, and what is the main reason why there are so few people in the stadiums?

Comparing the Champions' Cup to the Champions League as a whole is an unfair comparison. A far more accurate comparison would be to just the knockout stages. Even then, you're getting teams that simply have smaller fan bases than any team that was in the Champions' Cup. Still, average attendances for the knockout rounds compare well to the old version of the tournament:

2008-09: 14,707
2009-10: 14,349
2010-11: 18,580

In your opinion, what can concacaf or clubs do to attract more people more fastly in stadiums, even if i see it progresses over the years? How concacaf organize the promotion of CCL?

Not much they can do, maybe move the tournament to weekends, but that is not realistic.

I am not sure how much of the gate income they take, maybe allowing teams to keep it all.

Get more TV money to promote the CCL better?

But TV ratings and revenue are probably better than attendance (or maybe not).

I am sure if you ask 3 Concacaf fans on how to improve the CCL you will get 5 different opinions.

As cheaply as possible.

To be fair CCL is a money loser for Concacaf, so demanding they spend tons of money on it would be off.

do the clubs take any decisions to bring more people to the stadiums?

Expect Tigres to have great numbers in attendance next year...hell Tigres fans will probably pack the stadium in all 3 group stage games.

I heard the Tigres coach doesn't think too highly of international competitions........sure that won't translate to the fans?

good question. yeah Tucca is probably going to put bench players in Copa Libertadores as well. It might translate to the fans. maybe if the games dont sell out, I still think it will be good numbers showing up. we shall see.

Any coach who emphasizes league play over continental competition, especially when the league ends in a playoff, is a complete ****ing moron. Unless, of course, you're at a club in danger of relegation. Which Tigres certainly is not.

It depends on what pays the bills, if they feel finishing bad in the local league will get them fired, then they will prioritize the local league.

Tucca gave Tigres a championship for the first time in 30 years. Tigres can finish the season dead last and he won`t get fired.

Metapan 4,131
Seattle 23,433
Toronto 47,658
Morelia 14,951

Canada should get at least another club in CONCACAF champions league. As you see the best attendance record is in Montreal 55k and Toronto 47k.
Do not forget that Vancouver plays now in BC Place, stadium with a capacity of 50 k .

Toronto - 47,658
Seattle - 23,433
Morelia - 14,951
Metapan - 4,131

Through Quarterfinals, First Leg

Code:

Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
2008-09   6,406   4,963   50.0%   18.2%
2009-10   5,245   4,356   51.5%    8.8%
2010-11   6,485   4,850   50.0%   26.5%
2011-12   7,190   5,682   44.1%   23.5%

Historical Totals:

Code:

Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
2008-09   7,117   6,303   44.7%   23.7%
2009-10   6,806   5,461   46.2%   16.7%
2010-11   8,446   5,525   43.6%   35.9%

Average: 1 out of 4
Median: 1 out of 4
<5k%: 1 out of 4
>10k% 2 out of 4

AAQ: 1.25, same as before

Average by federation:

Canada - 15,329
United States - 9,244
Mexico - 8,497
Costa Rica - 6,641
Honduras - 6,227
Nicaragua - 4,500
El Salvador - 3,382
Guatemala - 2,570
Panama - 1,136
Puerto Rico - 1,125
CFU - 863
Guyana - 600

Average by club:

Seattle - 16,142
Toronto - 15,329
Monterrey - 11,086
Morelia - 10,881
Olimpia - 10,644
Alajuelense - 9,825
Los Angeles - 8,517
Alianza - 7,301
Colorado - 6,146
Santos - 6,125
Motagua - 5,920
Real Espana - 5,165
Real Esteli - 4,500
UNAM - 4,301
Herediano - 4,252
Dallas - 3,491
Comunicaciones - 2,926
Isidro Metapan - 2,598
Municipal - 1,500
Tauro - 1,281
Puerto Rico - 1,125
San Francisco - 700
Alpha United - 600

Overall attendance: 488,896

looks like a full house in Monterrey, I will guess 30K+

Official: 33,000

7,500 in LA

14,278 in Torreon (It looked like a lot more).

Monterrey - 33,000
Santos - 14,278
UNAM - 7,800
Los Angeles - 7,500

Through Quarterfinals

Code:

Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
2008-09   6,750   5,991   47.1%   20.0%
2009-10   5,392   4,700   50.0%    9.7%
2010-11   7,269   5,090   47.2%   30.6%
2011-12   7,659   6,000   41.7%   25.0%

Historical Totals:

Code:

Year      Average Median  <5k     >10k
2008-09   7,117   6,303   44.7%   23.7%
2009-10   6,806   5,461   46.2%   16.7%
2010-11   8,446   5,525   43.6%   35.9%

Average: 1 out of 4
Median: 1 out of 4
<5k%: 1 out of 4
>10k% 2 out of 4

AAQ: 1.25, same as before

Average by federation:

Canada - 15,329
Mexico - 10,054
United States - 9,135
Costa Rica - 6,641
Honduras - 6,227
Nicaragua - 4,500
El Salvador - 3,382
Guatemala - 2,570
Panama - 1,136
Puerto Rico - 1,125
CFU - 863
Guyana - 600

Average by club:

Monterrey - 16,564
Seattle - 16,142
Toronto - 15,329
Morelia - 10,881
Olimpia - 10,644
Alajuelense - 9,825
Los Angeles - 8,263
Santos - 7,756
Alianza - 7,301
Colorado - 6,146
Motagua - 5,920
UNAM - 5,176
Real Espana - 5,165
Real Esteli - 4,500
Herediano - 4,252
Dallas - 3,491
Comunicaciones - 2,926
Isidro Metapan - 2,598
Municipal - 1,500
Tauro - 1,281
Puerto Rico - 1,125
San Francisco - 700
Alpha United - 600

Overall attendance: 551,474

Dang, Galaxy and Pumas not helping the >10K number.

Tuca left his mark with the fans and the CCL

Watching the Mexico - Panama game, I see what it seems to be a crowd much bigger than 7,500 @ the Home Depot Center.

Does the rule only applies to the LA galaxy and Chivas USA?

Is it because of spring break?

Or the problem with the CCL is that those games are not part of contracts?


Friday game had 8,521.

http://www.concacaf.com/page/MOQ/Schedule/0,,12813,00.html