11/12 CCL: Group C (UNAM, Tauro, Dallas, Toronto) [R]

Ballsy talk for a supporter of a team that got their ass kicked by twice the margin FCD lost by tonight and is in the bottom quarter of the league. Tell you what - start taking care of business yourself before thinking you deserve any "help."

On the other hand, yeah, that sucked balls to lose at home that way.

We've got to find a way to get healthy and get a bit rested. I think we'll get a result of some sort from Panama and then finish against Toronto at home. That should get us through.

Sure it is, Pumas Morelos was not good enoght for MLS teams, but MLS is still not good enogh for Primera teams.

So 1ra de Ascenso < MLS < 1ra.

The gap is closing.

Did you miss the first part of your own post? Based on what I've seen on these boards Pumas virtually always plays their reserves in non-league games. And if you watched the game, it was very evenly matched for 80 minutes, though Pumas admittedly controlled the last 10.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhJbU1alqNY"]FC Dallas vs Pumas UNAM - 9/21/11 Full Highlights[/ame]

Um, you clearly didn't even watch the game, buddy. Pumas only had one themselves in the 1st half and weren't particularly threatening until the aforementioned last ten minutes.

http://www.concacafchampions.com/page/CL/Schedule/0,,12856,00.html

2 shots on goal by Dallas, 5 SOG by Pumas

-------------------Dallas Pumas
Shots on goal-----------2- 5
Shots wide--------------3 - 1
Fouls--------------------7 - 10
Corner Kicks-------------1 - 4
Offsides-----------------1 - 3
Possession------------45% - 55%

But hey just like FOXNEWS do not let facts get in the way of opinions.

That is fact, not opinion.

The game was shit, both teams were shit for like 70 minutes, then PUMAS turned it up and won the game.

I was surprised they took out Martin Bravo and still found a way to win the game.

PUMAS is back in the CCL.

Shows how dominant Mexican teams really are in Concacaf, can turn things around pretty much when they feel like it.

I will admit, I trust MLS more than concacaf.

So officially 2 and 5 for 7 total shots on goal

In reality 0 and 6 for 6 total.

Then again, concacaf shows only 4 shots off target, MLS shows 12 with 8 for Dallas.

I mean does Concacaf even watch the games?

Eventually, MLS teams will have deeper squads.

Do balls that hit the post count as shots on goal?

Dallas:

53: "Hernández bends in a free kick and John with a magnificent header that shades the Pumas post."

71: "Shea with an audacious effort from the half way line that Patiño collects with ease."

PUMAS

27: "Cortes cuts inside his marker just inside the Dallas penalty area and his effort is straight at Hartman."

47: "Corner kick to Pumas is headed goal bound by Verón but Hartman makes a superb save and Pumas earn a corner kick.Corner kick to Pumas is headed goal bound by Verón but Hartman makes a superb save and Pumas earn a corner kick."

62: "Orrantía for Pumas runs at goal and from the edge of the penalty box shoots, Hartman makes a cracking save and Pumas earn a corner kick."

84: "Goal Pumas. Orrantía with some good work gets to the bi-line and his cross is tapped in by Herrera."

90 +1 "Goal Pumas. Orrantía again to the bi-line and his cut back into the danger zone is finished off by Izazola."


Maybe I should apologize to Concacaf.

But the second Dallas shot was from Half field so maybe 1.5 shots on goal.

This is fact!

By concacaf there were 2 shots on goal by Dallas, reading their script, I guess technically they are correct, but one of them is pushing it.

The 2 shots on goal are factual acording to concacaf.

The second part was opinion, yes, I mean it is a description of what my opinion of the game as I saw it.

Yes the stats were facts as far as concacaf claims, the second part was opinion.

lol

nope

Izazola, Orrantia, de Buen ect. are kids....not all of them off course

1 - 1 right now at Toronto vs Pumas.

So the game ends 1 -1; Tauro and Dallas with a chance to make up ground.

I was thinking that Tauro was pretty much out of it, but, wow. You're right. If Tauro beats Dallas, Dallas and Toronto tie, and Tauro beats Pumas, we get a four-way, 8-point tie, and Tauro could go through on GD. Not that that's likely, but wouldn't that be crazy?

Even more kids played yesterday and they were still a lot better than Toronto in Toronto.