$10.71 Billion Profit for Exxon Mobil

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  1. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    United States
    Exxon Mobil Sees Record Profit for U.S. Co.
    That's bigger than the GDP of some decent sized countries.
     
  2. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
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    Yeah, there was no price gouging...:rolleyes:
     
  3. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    What's the over/under on the rationalization post describing why this is a good thing?
     
  4. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    Under.

    Was there any change in the margin?
     
  5. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
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    Very quickly, Q4 EBIT margins for '05 vs. '04:

    2005: 17.718/99.662 = 17.78%
    2004: 13.265/83.265 = 15.91%

    So yeah, EBIT margin went up by 12% Q4 yoy. Someone else can search for operating margin data.

    Oh, and here's the full year:
    2005: 59/371 = 15.9%
    2004: 41/298 = 13.75%

    A 15.6% increase for FY05 vs. FY04 overall. Not a bad year for XOM.

    /But I thought gasoline demand was price-elastic!
     
  6. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    So do you think it's a good thing after reading Obie's post?
     
  7. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
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    Liverpool FC
    ALL HAIL THE KING!!!!!
    Nothing but admiration for this company and the profits it makes.

    as for margins......

    2004-- 25.33/298.04=8.49%
    2005-- 36.3/371=9.78%

    under 10% margin is hardly gouging.
     
  8. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
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    Chicago Fire
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    Nah there is no gouging going on, and there certainly is no price fixing going on. I mean every gas station has their prices go up and down on the same day everywhere by the same amount is just market correction right? :rolleyes:
     
  9. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    After reading both Wingtips and Obie's post's I've decided to be actively conflicted. I don't buy the shit so I really don't care all that much
     
  10. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
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    Since Bush has taken over, gas prices have doubled, oil companies are making the most profits in their history, profit margins have increased by 35%.

    On top of all this, our tax money subsidizes oil companies to the tune of about 25 billion a year, and a large percentage of our foreign affiars and military outlays go o to protecting the supply.
     
  11. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
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    Of course- because it's a government-supported and -protected industry that has nothing to with the free market. You big-government republicans kill me.
     
  12. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
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    0% of tax money should be helping these giants......... corporate welfare pisses me off so much more than the "people" welfare everyone whines so much about.
     
  13. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Whether or not you buy gasoline, you're still affected by its price.

    Unless, of course, you live in a cave.

    Oh, and Wingtips is a nutcase.
     
  14. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
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    I agree, we should not be granting welfare to the corporations. Let's cut corporate/farm welfare and save our government over $100 billion/yr.

    so it is Bush' fault that the cost of oil has increased? you can honestly blame him when dictators in the Middle East and increasingly Socialist governments in Russia/South America control around 90% of our oil supply (all of whom are awash in money right now with the rise in gas prices)?
     
  15. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Q.E.D.
     
  16. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    True. But that much.

    http://www.freshdirect.com/fee_info.jsp?type=fuel

    And Mike, you live in a glass house. :)
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Partly. He's directly responsible for the dramatic reduction in Iraqi oil exports.
     
  18. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
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    Good for Exxon, they've really helped out my Roth IRA this year.
     
  19. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
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    It's a commodity, we're not talking about Widgets here.
     
  20. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
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    Did you see where gas companies were bitching about Jewel and Wal-Mart because they were selling gas a couple of cents lower then everyone else?

    On that note, how can Food for Less and Ultra sell the same product Jewel does but for a dollar less? Aren't those commodities as well?
     
  21. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    Corporate Welfare is a tool of the Republicans to increase tax revenue in their districts and elicit campaign contributions
    Personal Welfare is a tool of the Democrats to increase their constituency.

    :D
     
  22. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    Sioux Falls, SD
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    Which product are you talking about?
     
  23. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    I'm sure it's pure coincidence that the oil companies are posting record profits at a time when gas prices are skyrocketing. Money falls out the sky all the time.
     
  24. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    The whole "they are just making their normal margins" argument kind of falls flat when set against the "prices have to be higher because of Katrina" argument.

    Should the oil companies be insulated in their profit margins from the forces of nature with all of the costs passed on to us through the pump?

    The answer is that they shouldn't be, but they can be because we are dealing with a text book oligopoly.
     
  25. Scarecrow

    Scarecrow Red Card

    Feb 13, 2004
    Chicago
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    Lets see Ice Cream, Dawn, Coke Products, steaks, a whole litany of products.
     

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