Atletico Nacional

Discussion in 'Colombia: Clubs' started by pibe10, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    i know some history about colombia but from where is the bogotano vs Caleño vs Antioqueño vs Costeño vs Pastuso thing come from? which point in history did that happen? lol i know that happens everywhere on earth but come on lol
     
  2. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Regionalism plays no part in Medina's reputation. He had a couple of rough matches in what were two pretty important matches and the majority hadn't and hasn't seen enough of the kid to give him any sort of leeway.

    Fickle fans. That's all it is.
     
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  3. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Now I have time to comment on yesterday's match. It was one of our best matches this year and like Rafa said, we could have won by 2-3 goals. I just hope that we won't regret on it next week. The good thing - we won and didn't receive an away goal. Which means that every goal that we'll score next week and Mineiro will be in trouble. Also, they will have to attack in order to score and I hope that we can punish them with our counter attacks. For me Sherman, Bocanegra & Mejia were the best players along, of course, with the keeper Victor. Now we have to concentrate on Saturday's match vs. Envigado and then to Brazil!

    Ohh and also #FUERZASTEFAN
     
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  4. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ami me sorprendio una sacada que tuvo Armani... de arquero de clase mundial.
     
  5. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    visto desde el punto de vista cultural la desendencia Espanola es bastante regionalista.
    Tambien como dice el dicho "Divide venceras" Mientras sigamos dividos bajo conceptos tan ridiculos, el gobierno puede hacer todas las cagadas que quiera, la fuerza mas grande que tiene una sociedad es la union.

    me parece completamente ridiculo y estupido cuando el Colombiano la cogio contra Medellin cuando a esta ciudad la nombraron como la mas inovadora del mundo. Osea estamos hablando de que en Colombia hay una ciudad que le gana a Tokio a Londres a New York... y el Colombiano sale con chistes estupidos y pendejos por Twitter???
    Pero eso si, no hay mas nadie patriotico que un Colombiano...


    aunque ahora pensandolo no, la culpa la tienen los Cachacos!!!! Ellos siempre son los culpables!!!
     
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  6. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Total...
     
  7. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    yeah i see that same thing happens here in the States. Not only do they divide us by ''RACE'' but the media makes it hard for people to unite so they government can shit anywhere they want. the colombian nt is the best way to get everyone together..caleno costeno antioqueno ibagueno bogotano pastuso etc etc.
    BTW i only mentioned this because of the post wars i see online of colombians vs other colombians andm i see this a lot since i live in a area where there is a large community of colombians and when they ask me where my parents come from i get this ''Valluno!?….NO marica, esos vallunos son vagos'' even if its a joke still….still want to give rock bottom them.
    [​IMG]
     
  8. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Y que culpa tenemos nosotros de que todos los ñucos de la provincia no sepan comportarse y tengan que ir a Bogota si quieren vivir decentemente?



    Hablando en serio, Colombia (y en cierta medida USA) sufren de ese regionalismo porque geograficamente estan muy dispersos y porque no hay una ciudad netamente dominante como puede ser en Argentina, Mexico o Peru. Ese aislamiento geografico conduce a que haya desarrollos culturales muy diferentes (usualmente tambien ligados a la zona de origen de los colonizadores, por decir algo los vascos fueron a Bogota y los gallegos a Medellin, los turcos se quedaron en la costa, etc, etc) y a que por mucho tiempo hubo poco intercambio cultural entre los diferentes centros (solo hasta por ahi 1920 o 1930 se empezaron a conectar las ciudades con la aviacion, porque en nuestro pais dejaron morir el ferrocarril y las carreteras nunca fueron buenas).

    Por ende, si yo poco o nada conozco de la gente de la costa, gracias al aislamiento, y los dos primeros que conozco son dusty y amazing jevoman, pues obviamente voy a pensar lo peor de los costeños.
     
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  9. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    algo interesante qeu tiene el Colombiano dentro de la comunidad hispana, es que aca la gente se pregunta de donde es; entonces tu escuchas soy Mexicano, soy Ecuatoriano, soy Peruano, Dominicano etc etc... pero el 90% de los Colombianos te responden Soy Colombiano de Medellin o Pereira (aca hay bastantes) o de Bogota o de la costa etc etc
    osea al espesificar la region; en el lenguage no verbal tu le estas dejando saber a la otra persona que tu eres de el mismos pais que el resto de Colombianos pero eres "diferente"; osea no me vayas a comparar con ellos....


    PS: los vallunos si son vagos :whistling:.

    Y @dapip i entiendo que hay razones geograficas, pero es que en Colombia el regionalismo es bastante, es tanto que parece impuesto mas que otra vaina. Siempre me parecio que las regiones eran "huerfanas" de la capital.
    Nunca me cupo en la cabeza que Cartagena siendo la esquina norte de sur america, es basicamente la puerta. Es el sitio ideal para hacer el puerto mas importante de sur america donde todo entra por ahi. Pero ese desinteres del estado es muy jodido y nadie dice nada porque para que invertirle a los costenos peresosos esos no?

    ahora yo puedo parecer que solo abogo por los costenos, pero es un ejemplo que conosco a raiz y muy seguramente pasa en cada region.

    Yo quisiera que un dia Nicaragua trate de llevarse al Choco aver si el estado de casualidad se acuerda que ese sitio le pertenece a Colombia.
    Ese desinteres del estado es lo que me hierve el higado, pero eso si; todos somos bien patriotas no? y cuando Nicaragua apela por varios terrenos, enseguida golpeamos la mesa y nos da sentido de pertenencia.
     
  10. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #860 dapip, Apr 25, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2014
    Cada zona tiene su idiosincracia y sus problemas, pero pa' ladrones, los politicos de la costa. Pero asi mismo como hubo excesivo centralismo (herencia de los Chibchas, el virreinato y las guerras de independencia), tambien hubo muy poca puja de las regiones para romper ese yugo, que persistio hasta 1991. Lo mas triste es que el cambio de las normas no es que haya ayudado mucho, ya que ahora se roban la plata a 3 niveles (nacional, departamental y municipal). Creo que en Arauca hay un municipio que recibe mas que casi cualquier ciudad por regalias del petroleo y aun no tiene acueducto. Ah, si, aqui esta:

    http://www.capibaramundonoticias.co...ponsabilidad-fiscal-por-$82-706-millones.html

    O sea, no todo es culpa del gobierno en Bogota.


    Que va puro regionalismo.

    Pero lo malo es que no nos dura, y los politicos que tenemos son unas guevas...

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  11. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    recuerdas la eterna Pelea que ha tenido Chile con Bolivia protegiendo su terreno.

    Es totalmente injusto? SI, Bolivia tiene derecho al Mar
    Para mucha gente fue injusto la forma en que chile le quito la tierra a Bolivia y Peru con la guerra del pasifico.

    Pero Chile ha peleado siempre por esos terrenos eso es sentido de pertenencia, cosa que Colombia nunca ha tenido.
     
  12. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Guys, you were too far with the off topic. Let's back to ATLETICO NACIONAL'S THREAD.

    Thanks
     
  13. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  14. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I was a bit afraid before the match vs. Envigado, but at the end we controlled without any problem and with our second string (not that they are less good or something). 1-4 and the series is pretty much over. Now we can clean our head before the game in Brazil and to prepare only for this crucial match when the 2nd leg vs. Envigado won't matter at all.
     
  15. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Cardona and Perez are beastly!!!!

    Great game but seriously next season buy strikers that Paez guy is garbage
     
  16. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Osorio is really interesting in Dayro who would be a great addition (btw, also Medina), but like Pepino I think mentioned, Millos has the first option to purchase him and he already said that he loves staying with Millonarios. Uribe is injured, Duque lost his form a bit, Angel is too old, Paez & Trellez are decent strikers but not for the Libertadores. And yet, we still are the best scorers in the league :D
     
  17. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Haha league sucks you need to win this cup or the Sudamericana.

    Medina is a old, streaky, pot head.

    Daryo, Darwin Quintero, Teo, Gabriel Rey would all be great pick ups for you guys.
     
  18. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    rey has 34 years old....
     
  19. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Angel is like 50! Isn't Wilder Medina like 33 as well?

    Rey still scoring a ton in Mexico. Id like for Nacional to bring back some of the guys in Mexico or Argentina who are doing well. Our league is just as good and prefer they help teams in our league. Or That striker from Zamora that raped Santa Fe haha
     
  20. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    and what with that? who say i support them???

    i dont know if colombian league is so good.....in average our libertadores team are very shy....since long time ago.....before santa fe last year (only they pass from first round) the las semifinal was in 2007 .......
     
  21. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Crzd, you do realize that Mexican team pay much, much, much better then Colombian clubs, right? Why would Rey (I don't want him anyway) or Quintero will return to Colombia? Why should Teo leave River Plate for Colombia? We have to handle with what we can sign.
     
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  22. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Stop dreaming
     
  23. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    We will face Monaco on July 23rd in Miami. I wonder if Falcao would still be there.
     
  24. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    no, he will rest after the world cup more days than rest of the team with james because both golnde ball and silver ball of the wcq need more rest than others
     
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  25. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    :D Amen to that brother

    In other news, beside Stefan Medina who won't play anymore this tournament, we also have Elkin Calle & Orlando Berrio injured but most important, Alex Mejia who had to leave the practice yesterday due to a sprain in his foot. According to the doctor, who should be ok and most probably go to Brazil to play vs. Mineiro, but this decision will be taken later on today, when Osorio will publish the call-up list. Mejia was one of the best in the first match and is very important for us if we want to pass them.
     

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