2014 Copa Bridgestone Libertadores

Discussion in 'Mexico: Club Cups and Competitions' started by Balam, Nov 10, 2013.

  1. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Yes sir
     
  2. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I see. How much would that be in your opinion? I am just curious cause even at the low end, is still probably 3x what Bolivar pays.

    Keep in mind, Bolivar's roster total probably run 3million at most USD. I remember figures came out of how much we were paying vs. everyone else in the libertadores a couple years ago, and it was crazy how little money Bolivian clubs play with vs. bigger clubs in South America.
     
  3. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I don't know if it's true or not, but the annoucners said the grass was higher last night so the ball slowed down and tired the players more.
    Pretty smart--same thing when a team wets the field before the game begins.
     
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  4. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    i personally though the field was slippery because i noticed alot of players slipping on both teams.
     
  5. manuel84

    manuel84 Member+

    Oct 16, 2012
    Tatatatamaulipas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    in copa libertadores you have to kill when you can or you will be killed and that happened to Leon. They could scored at least 3 goals per game in the 4 matches they faced but Boselli, Elias, Gullit, Montes and Britos missed a lot of chances.

    regarding Santos that goal in the last minute (94'), hopefully doesn't affect tonight.
     
  6. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Probably wet the shit out of it too before the game.

    I still don't get how players slip now a days though--with soft ground studs keeping you PLANTED with technology now.

    Personally I am amazed how they get grass to grow at that altitude lol.
     
  7. manuel84

    manuel84 Member+

    Oct 16, 2012
    Tatatatamaulipas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Guardado just said last night he won't return to mexico next season :(
     
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  8. manuel84

    manuel84 Member+

    Oct 16, 2012
    Tatatatamaulipas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    fixed, they know how to play these kind of matches. They are "cancheros".
     
  9. gvazqu1

    gvazqu1 Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Is there a post were you don't involve the media?
     
  10. El_Pozolero_Mex

    Apr 17, 2012
    Club:
    Club América
    Traditionally, yes. It is the big three that usually do well here. The rest just tend to disappoint even though the league is so socialist. Will saints finally change this?
     
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  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I know las Chivas son coperas, but of late they're playing like crap, and are one of the weaker teams in the MX. I don't see them doing better than León, at the moment.

    PS: 13 out of 18 in the descenso table. How the mighty have fallen!
     
  12. diegolin89

    diegolin89 Member+

    Jul 13, 2008
    And they will be starting in 16 place next season, just above Puebla and the Ascenso team. It will be goooood.
     
  13. manuel84

    manuel84 Member+

    Oct 16, 2012
    Tatatatamaulipas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    hopefully :)
     
  14. elvasco

    elvasco 100% Americanista

    Sep 10, 2006
    FYP
     
  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mexico's a member of CONCACAF, not CONMEBOL, and is obligated to send its best teams to its own confederation championship. [/argument]
     
  16. MX92

    MX92 Member+

    Feb 27, 2013
    dude youre contracdicting yourself, first you critizise gullit's gold cup performances now your justifying herrera's bad displays under chepo, dont you know chepo coached the gold cup team?

    BTW the Costa rica game had more importance and much more pressure than the friendly vs Nigeria which you are using to hype up Herrera's MX NT performances

    Gullit has played better in the league than the level herrera reached during the olympics, the olympics werent herrera's best games
     
  17. Dr. Deplorable

    Dr. Deplorable Member+

    Mar 31, 2007
    Kansas
    Rolf


    You sure?
     
  18. Dr. Deplorable

    Dr. Deplorable Member+

    Mar 31, 2007
    Kansas
    The problem is that the level of competition is so uneven in Concacaf that Mexico always ends up dominating the tournament no matter what teams end up going. Therefore, Concachafa would be improved much more by having the teams that qualify for Libertadores switch with the teams that qualify for Concacaf
     
  19. manuel84

    manuel84 Member+

    Oct 16, 2012
    Tatatatamaulipas
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    no i am not :unsure:

    i heard that from that Che narrator and i hope Santos beat Lanus tonight. :thumbsup:
     
  20. Dr. Deplorable

    Dr. Deplorable Member+

    Mar 31, 2007
    Kansas
    We will cuz:thumbsup:

    I think the last thing Chivas needs right now is to qualify for another tournament. They really need to get 2-3 quality refuerzos and get their ish together before stretching themselves with 2 tourneys
     
  21. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'm justifying EVERYONE's displays under chepo... Did you not read this:

    If the Costa Rica game is the only international game bar NZ you can provide of Gullit doing well then I rest my case. And fyi, he played decent, you make it seem like he was out of this world.

    Like I said before, if Gullit can only play great in Liga MX then how useful is he to us? He's a league player. That's who he'll be and that's where he'll stay. And LOL at comparing the league to the Olympics.
     
  22. MX92

    MX92 Member+

    Feb 27, 2013
    1. No, youre only justifying herrera, you keep mentioning gullit's gold cup performannces

    2. Gullit against CR was better than anything herrera has done in important NT games

    3. Not comparing anything, but why do you even keep mentioning the olympics? Dont you get that herrera didnt do much there?

    4. The best herrera we saw was against u23 Concacaf bums and unimportant toulon tournament, by your logic he is not even a "league player" because he didnt even reach gullit's level in liga mx

    BTW arent you the same guy who takes credit away from Vela every chance you get?
     
  23. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    1. I went on to mention other international matches and Libertadores and you kept insisting on CR.

    2. It's relative. Doing great against Brazil and co. is a lot better than doing superb against Costa Rica.

    3. He did. Herrera was good in the Olympics (admittedly, not absolutely outstanding, but very good). This is probably what put him in teams' spotlight.

    4. He did very well at Pachuca. People fail to see this because Pachuca was horrible back when Herrera was with them. He created many chances only for the forwards to fack everything up time and time again.

    I am a guy that criticizes Vela when necessary or when I see fit. I don't want to delve into this for the sake of not turning this into another Vela argument thread. What does this have to do with Gullit btw?
     
  24. MX92

    MX92 Member+

    Feb 27, 2013
    1. I mentioned the Costa rica game because according to you he sucked against everyone except NZ

    2. Except he didnt do great, cumplio lo que tena le pidio, hasta ahi

    3. What got him in the teams spotlight was the toulon tournament, not the olympics. Herrera's performances declined in the proceso since the Spain game before the olympics(which in he looked great)

    4. He was good, gut not as good as gullit was for leon. He was also super inconsistent

    5. Nothing, just wondering why you take credit from 2 of Mexico's most talented players
     
  25. Adrian559

    Adrian559 Member+

    Apr 29, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    thats the only time i mention the media lol
     

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