YNT-eligible ('93 and later) players in U.S. lower divisions

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
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  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    FWIW, The original FCD Top release said:

    The loan to Arizona United SC is effective for the entire 2014 season with FC Dallas having the right to recall Top at any time.
    http://www.fcdallas.com/news/2014/04/fc-dallas-loans-jonathan-top-usl-pro-side-arizona-united

    Presumably there are some kind of rules governing how many loans are allowed in one year, who can play for whom under what circumstances and in what competitions, and so on, but I sure as heck don't know what they are.
     
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  3. Peter Bonetti

    Peter Bonetti Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    1970 WC Quarterfinal
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  4. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    It was just for this game. FCD did the same thing the previous weekend with Cobi Span. I don't necessarily think its a bad sign that the club wants to ocassionally recall players from loan to use them in reserve games. Keeps them in the thoughts of the coaching staff. It's not like he missed a game with Phoenix to be with FCD for this one. The more games the better..................

    FCD's write-up of the 3-2 loss versus Orlando.

    http://www.fcdallas.com/news/2014/0...ffer-first-loss-2014-usl-pros-orlando-city-sc

    FC Dallas – Raul Fernandez, Ryan Hollingshead, Nicholas Walker (Aaron Meyer 46), Walker Zimmerman, Zach Loyd (Kris Reeves 78), Victor Ulloa, Adam Moffat (Shaquelle Moore 76), Andrew Jacobson, Tesho Akindele, David Texeira (Diego De La Tejera 46), Jonathan Top (Santiago Agudelo 80).

    A couple things to note there:

    1) Shaq Moore apparently still at the FCD Academy.
    2) Walker Zimmerman went 90. Good sign. Seems like he's fully recovered from his injury. Scored a goal..........
    3) And in the "relatives" of pro players category they brought on academy forwards Santiago Agudelo and Diego de la Tejera as subs.

    4) Yes, FCD is using the Peruvian national team keeper with the reserves, thus keeping the two academy players Sanchez and Gonzalez rooted to the bench. Gotta figure something out there. Should probably deal Fernandez at this point if Seitz has really won the job. Sanchez has to be getting the reserve team games. Or hell, deal Sanchez to Tigres (who own his economic rights anyway). He's at a critical stage here, and needs to be playing. At least Gonzalez was playing with the academy team at the Dallas Cup.

    5) No Danny Garcia. Why not? Couldn't tell you. Perhaps this is a good sign for their upcoming MLS game?
     
  5. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Garcia is in camp with the U-21s.
     
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  6. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    ... and Mikey Lopez replaced Ceren late for OCFC. Tyler Turner went another 90 minutes.

    Orlando City SC- GK Miguel Gallardo, D Tyler Turner, Rob Valentino (Justin Clark 35’), Brad Rusin, Luke Boden, M Yordany Alvarez, Darwin Ceren (Mikey Lopez 79’), Adama Mbengue, Kevin Molino, Brian Span (Anthony Pulis 68’), F Dennis Chin (Corey Hertzog 75’)​

    http://www.orlandocitysoccer.com/news/?article_id=1816
     
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  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Relevant upcoming USL action:
    • Thursday -- Harrisburg at OC
    • Friday -- Fire Reserves at Charlotte, G2 at Arizona
    • Saturday -- Charleston at Pittsburgh, Richmond at Dayton, Orlando at OKC, Harrisburg at Sacramento
    • Sunday -- G2 at OC
     
  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Relevant upcoming NASL action:
    • Saturday -- Indy at Ft. Lauderdale
     
  9. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    (Dave M-N transitioning from YA guru to obscure Yanks at home guru?) :)
     
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  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Seems like a more worthwhile effort than when I decided to follow Yanks in the Blue Square Premier League and below......................:)
     
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  11. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Who knows what boondoggle I might undertake next season? One thing you can be sure of: lists! Oh, and arguing.
     
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  12. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then we should hope for more situations like Ben Spencer's, which are in the intersection of the two?
     
  13. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Ideally Spencer would also have an American mother who married a Danish guy and moved to Europe from Michigan in 1981. But we can't all be perfect.
     
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  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    USOC schedule released:

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/04/24/us-soccer-releases-details-2014-us-open-cup

    U-23 teams from Orlando City (PDL), Portland Timbers (PDL) and New York Red Bulls (NPSL) will enter in the first two rounds. The New York U-23s will host the Vermont Voltage at the Red Bulls' training facility in Whippany, N.J., on May 7. One week later, in the second round on May 14, the Timbers U-23s will host USL PRO club Arizona United at Providence Park and the Orlando City U-23s will host NPSL club Jacksonville United in Sanford, Fla.

    LA Galaxy II, meanwhile, will also enter in the second round and will host Open Cup legend Cal FC, which reached the fourth round in 2012 following an upset of the Portland Timbers.

    1st and 2nd round pairings here:

    http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/04/24/09/27/140424-usoc-2014-tournament-announcement

    Some other games of interest:

    May 14

    CD Aguiluchos (NPSL) at Sacramento Republic (USL)

    Richmond Kickers (USL) at RVA FC (Richmond Virginia FC) (NPSL)

    Ocala Stampede (PDL) at Orlando City (USL)

    Oklahoma City Energy FC (USL) at Tulsa Athletics (NPSL)
     
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  15. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Scuffle past midfield and Meara runs all the way from his goal to go shove a guy. Around 1:51:00



    = /
     
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  16. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
  17. Maitreya

    Maitreya Member+

    Apr 30, 2007
    Providence, RI
    Watched the replay of Orlando City against FCD reserves. Zimmerman looked quick, but the FCD backline had a difficult time playing together and dealing with Orlando City's very impressive speed. Turner wasn't all that involved, but didn't look out of place.
     
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  18. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #368 Dave Marino-Nachison, Apr 25, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2014
    Seth Moses played the first 42 minutes for OC last night against Harrisburg, leaving because of a hamstring injury. His replacement, Chris Cortez, scored two goals (but they probably reshuffled since they play different positions).

    Jimmy McLaughlin went 74 for Harrisburg, getting off a couple of shots.

    OC won 4-1.
     
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  19. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A couple of games last night:

    LA2 vs. Arizona

    Oscar Sorto went 90 and assisted on LA's goal, which was scored by non-Yank Mendiola
    Sir Bradford Jamieson, Fourth of His Name played 63 minutes
    McBean came off the bench for 23 minutes.

    For Arizona, Bryan Gallego made his debut and went 90
    Jonathan Top also started and went 58
    Charles Renken and Jacole Turner were unused substitutes

    Chicago Reserves vs. Charlotte

    I haven't seen a box score / lineup, but from the beginning of the video it looks like Victor Pineda started. Chicago fielded a very strong lineup since they have the weekend off. Based on Charlotte's twitter, Joya may have played the second half.
     
  20. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Recap and video:

    http://www.chicago-fire.com/news/2014/04/reserves-fire-defeat-charlotte-eagles-3-2-friday-night

    LINEUPS:

    Chicago Fire: Kyle Reynish; Lovel Palmer, Patrick Ianni, Bakary Soumare (Jhon Kennedy Hurtado 46'), Gonzalo Segares (Steven Kinney 46'); Harry Shipp (Marco Franco 85'), Matt Watson (Benji Joya 46'), Logan Pause, Victor Pineda (Chris Ritter 67'); Juan Luis Anangono, Quincy Amarikwa

    Charlotte Eagles: Doug Herrick; Matt Gold (Tolani Ibikunle 69'_, Richard Dixon, Bilal Duckett, Ben Newnam; Drew Yates (Gui Brandao 77'), Fred Sekyere (Wells Thompson 69'), Juan Guzman (Darren Toby 74'); Zak Boggs (Tyrone Hall 77'), Jorge Herrera, Giuseppe Gentile
     
  21. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Salgado is starting in the USL
     
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  22. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am really interested to see if a young player who is having success at the USL/NASL level will be picked off by an MLS team. Not a lot of examples of this happening in the past but it would seem like more youngsters are getting minutes.
     
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  23. UcIceD2011

    UcIceD2011 Member+

    Jul 10, 2011
    Nor Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definitely. I hope that is what our system is building towards over the next decade. Hopefully as the lower leagues become more and more stable more teams are able to create youth teams also. My dream is that in 5-10 years the DA emcompasses all the MLS, NASL, and USL PRO youth teams and all the top performing/producing youth clubs around the country.
     
  24. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    There are more examples than you might think. Successful ones include Brian Ching, Jimmy Conrad, Kerry Zavagnin, Edson Buddle, Herculez Gomez, Joe Cannon, Pat Onstad, Sebastion Le Toux, Oswaldo Alonso, I think Tim Howard (can't remember for sure), Johnny Steele, and Luke Mulholland.

    To the limited extent that there have been good young players in our lower divisions, they've gotten their chance.
     
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  25. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saturday's games:

    Jaime Frias started and played 90 for Indy
    Ben Spencer made his debut for Indy Eleven, playing the last 30 minutes
    Mitchell Lopez was an unused substitute for Fort Lauderdale

    Tyler Turner played 90 for Orlando
    Jon Kempin played 90 for OKC
    Omar Salgado played 57 minutes for Charleston
    Jalen Robinson made his pro debut in Richmond, playing 15 minutes.
    Jimmy McLaughlin played 10 minutes for Harrisburg
    David Leichty played 8 minutes for OKC
    Mikey Lopez played 5 minutes for Orlando
    Bryan Salazar was an unused sub for Pittsburgh
    No sign of Mawolo Gissie or Collin Martin. Martin must have had a knock or been temporarily recalled.


    Philly should really either loan Pfeffer to Harrisburg or start playing him.
     

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