England U-16 Discussion Thread 2 [R] (2008 born)

Discussion in 'England' started by BarryfromEastenders, May 4, 2012.

  1. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    We play France. We finished second in the group, so they must be taking head-to-head over goal difference.
     
  2. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I would bet that more people will care for the England v. France game (3rd place) than the South Korean v. Ivory Coast match (championship). France is the host nation and a team to watch for, which goes for England as well.
     
  3. The Guardian

    The Guardian Member+

    Jul 31, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    NB England's game today kicks off at the earlier time of 12.30.
     
  4. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Currently 2-2. Jahmal Hector-Ingram and Tom Davies with our goals.
     
  5. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Finished 2-2. Now on to penalties :unsure:
     
  6. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    We won 5-3 on penalties. :thumbsup:
     
    The Guardian repped this.
  7. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Hooray. Refreshing that we won on penalties. Redemption from last year I suppose.
     
  8. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    There's an U15 training camp at St George's from May 2-4; Chelsea's Martell Taylor-Crossdale has been called up.
     
  9. BlueRebelZ

    BlueRebelZ Member+

    Aug 2, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    Anybody notice how much the trend of African countries FA's making overtures to parents of the players in #Eng have increased these days? I know of several at Chelsea & Watford alone.
     
  10. BlueRebelZ

    BlueRebelZ Member+

    Aug 2, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    Seems Mason Mount is also joining him in the camp. His dad said last night he'll be at #CFC Digs till Thursday then 3 days with England.
     
  11. MUFC1

    MUFC1 Member

    Apr 17, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That probably relates to there being more and more players that are eligible to play for African countries.
     
  12. blackman

    blackman Member

    Apr 12, 2011
    norf london
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Really ? I know Nigeria FA does it but I never heard about others , anyway, there aren't that much English young players with african origins and most of them are from Nigeria (Onomah, Oduwa, Akpom, Aneke, Ojo, Obita, Ibe etc...) then the rest are from very different country but most of the time is just one player....Afobe(DR Congo), Chalobah (Sierra Leone) Berahino (Uganda)...so it isn't something to really worry about in my opinion.
     
  13. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
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    --other--
    Berahino is Burundi.

    It'll be interesting to see if the FA approach Boga.
     
  14. khoazany

    khoazany Member

    Apr 11, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Surely Trevor Chalobah must be called up?
     
  15. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I can't be arsed to work out other clubs as I don't know them so well and it'd take some research but there definitely are plenty at Chelsea. This lot are either born in or eligible for their respective countries alongside England:

    Daniel Pappoe - Ghana (has played for their U20s)
    Fankaty Dabo - Sierra Leone
    Adam Nditi - Tanzania
    Kevin Wright - Sierra Leone
    Nathaniel (and Trevoh) Chalobah - Sierra Leone
    Ola Aina - Nigeria
    Fikayo Tomori - Nigeria
    Mukhtar Ali - Somalia
    Chike Kandi - Nigeria (attended a training camp before playing for Wales)
    Dominic Solanke - Nigeria
    Iké Ugbo - Nigeria
    Richard Nartey - Ghanaian surname I guess so pretty sure he counts

    And that's just those currently at the club, of those that left Josh Debayo was called into a Nigerian training camp before he played for England, Ismail Seremba was approached by Uganda, Sam Bangura and Aziz Deen-Conteh are both full Sierra Leone internationals (Aziz represented England 16s through 19s), Nana Ofori-Twumasi represented England 16-20 and could still play for Ghana, and the younger likes of David Musendo, Eddie Nketiah (both now Arsenal) and Jonathan Babuana would also have such heritage.
     
  16. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Most of them are not even slightly a loss to England so it really doesn't matter. The ones we actually want e.g. Onomah and Solanke are playing for England, that's important. The Chalobah brothers and Ali too.
     
  17. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Well yeah, but it was just in response to the suggestion that there's not that many. In the big picture I don't think it's a huge concern because just how many have England lost over the years? Victor Moses is about it and he's not really a massive miss, and I'm not including Ameobi/Anichebe in there either because they were late career call-ups after England decided they weren't good enough.
     
  18. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    What's with Tohsin Kehinde and Faustin Makela at United ?
     
  19. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    At the moment we are mostly losing players like Frimpong that are perfectly happy to represent England until it becomes clear to them that they are never going to make it.
     
  20. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Moses, is the best one lost i guess. Though that happened at a older age anyway.
     
  21. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I wouldn't even consider him a loss. He might have a few caps. Most of our wingers would be ahead of him. Losing Grealish to Ireland could turn out to be bad for us though.
     
  22. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We pushed hard for him though. It wasn't like we ignored him. His heart is set on Ireland as it appears to be.
     
  23. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    I wouldn't be so sure. I think he's waiting to see how good he'll be. The real worry is if Ireland decide to cap him at senior level before he has the chance to work that out. I've seen his brother post on Irish forums, and despite him wanting him to play for Ireland, he's always maintained that he hasn't decided yet either way.
     
  24. W.A.S.P.

    W.A.S.P. Member+

    Leeds United
    England
    Sep 20, 2012
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    There are positives and negatives both ways wherever he goes to.

    England Positives:

    - He will be playing with better players, which usually helps improve anyones game.
    - Surrounded by high caliber players.
    - Get fame (if he makes it up enough).
    - More recognition.
    - Good chance at playing in major tournaments.
    - Playing at Wembley is pretty cool right?
    - Train at a world class facility.

    Irish Positives:

    - Most likely will make the seniors before he reaches his 20th birthday.
    - Less pressure performing internationally.
    - Help build up Irish talent.
    - Help improve other Irish players around him.
    - Playing at Aviva Stadium is pretty cool right?
    - Not to mention the vibrant Irish supporters.

    England Negatives:

    - Playing for England can be tense at times.
    - Like getting criticized a lot?
    - Will be not be easy settling into a new system.
    - Hard to make it all the way up to the seniors.
    - May not ever make it to the seniors on the depth of talent in the youth systems are now.

    Irish Negatives:

    - Has only been witnessed 2 major tournament appearances for Ireland since he has been alive, which should tell you something about how good Ireland are.
    - Yep it will be harder to achieve internationally success.
    - Not around high caliber players, which might bring down his talent.
    - Could very possibly rely on him too much.
    - Which could expose him.
    - Coule look back on how he could've chosen England when he's at home and the Three Lions are competing in a major tournament.

    Please help me if you want to put an input on these reasons.
     
  25. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    He has indeed.
     

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