You mean when he told everyone to move to Europe, EPL and CL and then nobody listened and all moved back to MLS and the ones who did listen all ended up with so little PT that Klinsmann now has make an 'exception' for them, coz according to his own rules he would never call them up to the NT? Even so people are still claiming 'his player management skills are underrated'... His PR skills must be even better than his player management skills. He'll sell you bull shit and you'll think you're buying Nutella.
And for your part, you'd watch JK go into Fort Knox, pick up a bar of gold, and hand it to you, and you'd claim it was pyrite...
Please give an example of an occasion where Klinsmann claimed something was gold and I said it wasn't gold, and eventually it turned out to be gold. Byeeee!
You may be misremembering. We had two uninspiring wins v. Latvia and Venezuela and a somewhat demoralizing loss to a poor Morocco side. http://www.11v11.com/teams/usa/tab/matches/season/2006 Regarding Jozy specifically, the lead-up should give him some time to find his form but he seems to have shown over his career that he is a "confidence" player with high highs and low lows. I expect that to be reflected in uneven performances this summer.
You also may be misremembering that Jozy did just turn it on in 2009 and 2010 after two really poor years in Spain and Hull City to play very well at Confederations Cup and World Cup. I don't doubt it will happen again provided that the US can get the ball to him.
I can't think of many performances of Jozy's at the international level where he hasn't had both very good moments and head-scratching moments in the same match. The same applies to the tournaments you referenced. I don't think we have anyone better, particularly against high level competition, but IMO it's rare for him to have a performance where you can say he has been consistently good from start to finish (The Germany friendly last summer?).
This name and all the rest may make your JK dyspepsia feel better, but it does nothing to further the discussion or your argument. Please explain what JK did wrong in each case, and why it was a net negative for the USMNT.
In chandlers case: jk invested a lot of pt in TC, but when the team needed TC he didn't perform well or didnt even sbow up. So far JKs player management skills couldn't get TC to perform for us or even really commit to us.
Thanks for the response. JK invested playing time in Chandler because his skill and speed showed he was worth the effort. He did play poorly in Honduras, as did most of the team, especially those who like him were forced to take a long plane ride into a climactically hostile environment for a poorly scheduled qualifier. What got him in trouble with JK was his reportedly turning down subsequent call ups. JK showed him and the team that this is unacceptable. Of course with TC the final verse of his USMNT career has yet to be written, but I assume he now understands, quite clearly, he won't be granted a WC slot unless he is willing to commit to the team. What would you have done differently?
How is setting goals for his player pool, earlier in a WC cycle to challenge themselves at the highest level, poor player management? How does that even qualify as player management? But you'll have to tell me where Jurgen said he'd never call guys up to the NT who didn't move to Europe and go for UCL soccer. BTW, while he might not be thrilled Clint/Mike came back to MLS, they hardly represent players who didn't challenge themselves at high levels. He also can't control guys like Edu/Parky who flamed out in the EPL/Bund but wanted those moves on their own accord, nor can he control a guy like Shea not breaking in and that doesn't fall in JK either, as Shea didn't consult him before moving to Stoke and JK came out against that move almost immediately. Frankly, our player pool just isn't as good as people think, there's a reason there's low levels on interest abroad for most of our domestic players and it's not JK's fault we're in a down cycle in regards to talent. That still doesn't fall under player management though. I'd say more evidence of positive player management is taking a down cycle of player talent, going on that record win streak and finishing 1st in WCQing as he's actually managing them in a team environment. Club situations aren't his responsibility.
He makes it his responsibility (in part) when he commented and "set goals" as you outlined in the first paragraph. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
That's not his responsibility. He sets goals, it's on the players to reach those goals. Players also find themselves in different situations and how they handle it is on them. If Jurgen sets a NT goal of placing first in WCQing or getting out of our group, then that responsibility falls on him as its under his watch. But setting a goal for players in club situations to do as well as they can? If they fall short that's not on him. It's not under his watch. That's a player under his manager's watch at his club. I have no idea how club success has fallen on JK's shoulders. That's on players and their agents. If a player does well like Cam at Stoke, does JK suddenly get credit for that, rather than the player? If Omar hits a wall at LAG and doesn't improve, is that JK's responsibility?
If none of your players listen to the goals you set, or if none of the players reach the goals you set, then clearly you're doing something wrong. Especially if the ones who did listen but haven't been able to reach those goals have ended up not getting any significant PT, which so happens to hurt your own cause. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/feb/01/brek-shea-mls-stoke-city-premier-league
He's the one to have pushed them, and have told them over and over, and advised them, to move to the biggest clubs and leagues they could go to. That is managing your players. It pretty much completely backfired.