2014 Caribbean Cup and Caribbean Cup Qualifying Prediction Contest [R]

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  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is the structure of the competition followed by the prediction contest components:

    Preliminary Round: 7 teams, 9 games in 2 groups, only group winners advance
    First Round: 16 teams of which 14 start here and 2 come from the Preliminary Round, 24 games in 4 groups, first place, second place, and one third place team advance
    Second Round: 12 teams of which 3 start here and 9 come from the First Round, 18 games in 3 groups
    Caribbean Cup Group Stage: 8 teams of which 2 start here and 6 come from the Second round, 12 games in 2 groups
    Caribbean Cup games after the Group Stage: 6 teams, 5 games including a Fifth Place game
    Total: 68 games

    For the Preliminary Round and the First Round, predict an outcome for each game without a score. For the Second Round and the Caribbean Cup, predict a score for each game.

    Score Breakdown:

    1. Preliminary Round: 7.2%
    All the predictions must be made before the first game of this round.

    A. 0.6% per game for a total of 5.4%

    B. 0.9% for each group winner predicted for a total of 1.8%

    2. First Round: 24%
    All the predictions must be made before the first game of this round.

    A. 0.6% per game for a total of 14.4%

    B. 0.4% per team you were correct about whether they would advance or not for a total of 6.4%

    C. 0.2% per team you predicted in the correct standings positions for a total of 3.2%

    3. Second Round: 27%
    All the predictions must be made before the first game of this round.

    A. 0.6% per score prediction for a total of 10.8%

    B. 0.3% per team you were correct about whether they would advance or not for a total of 3.6%

    C. 0.3% per team you predicted in the correct standings positions for a total of 3.6%

    D. 3% per group for number of points you were off in the standings for each group for a total of 9%

    4. Caribbean Cup Group Stage: 28.8%
    All the Group Stage predictions must be made before the first Group Stage game.

    A. 0.8% per score prediction for a total of 9.6%

    B. 1% per team you were correct about their standings position for a total of 8%

    C. 0.5% per team you predicted first and they finished second or per team you predicted second and they finished first for a total of 2%

    Parts B and C are mutually exclusive for a team, so 9.6% + 8% + 11.2% = 28.8% without adding the 2%.

    D. 5.6% per group for number of points you were off in the standings for each group for a total of 11.2%

    5. Caribbean Cup games after the Group Stage: 13%
    A. 1.6% for the score prediction after regulation for each game for a total of 8%

    B. 1% for each game's winner for a total of 5%. These predictions must be made before the Fifth Place Game and Semifinals.

    I may eventually combine this, the 2014 Copa Centroamericana, the playoff between CFU fifth and UNCAF fifth, and the 2015 Gold Cup into one big contest.

    All Preliminary Round predictions must be made by May 28 at whatever time the first game starts. Predict an outcome without a score for each game. Unfortunately I don't know what the tiebreakers are but I'm assuming goal differential is first. Wikipedia doesn't have the order of the games but here are the groups with their hosts:

    Group 1: Bonaire (the host), Montserrat ,and U.S. Virgin Islands play; 3 team group
    Group 2: Aruba (host), British Virgin Islands, French Guiana, and Turks and Caicos Islands play, 4 team group

    @IASocFan
    Please sticky this topic.
     
  2. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DONE! :)
     
  3. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I predict:

    Group 1: Bonaire beats Montserrat, Bonaire beats U.S. Virgin Islands, and Montserrat and U.S. Virgin Islands draw

    Group 2:
    French Guiana 7 (wins group on goal differential)
    Aruba 7
    Turks and Caicos Islands 3
    British Virgin Islands 0
     
  4. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    I'm in. You should have waited till schedules are know, so you can put pattern, like:

    Bonaire - Montserrat
    Montserrat - USVI
    USVI - Bonaire

    and then we put 1 (for team listed first win), 2 (for team listed second win) or X (for draw).
     
  5. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Will see, there is not point of playing it when there's no interest at all. :(
     
  7. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got 1.2 out of a possible 1.8 points from yesterday. Since the Preliminary Round is only 7.2%, somebody can join the competition later and still finish ahead of me.
     
  8. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got all three games right yesterday.
     
  9. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got 1 out of 3 Matchday 3 games correct. I got both group winners correct. I got 5.4 out of a possible 7.2 points from the Preliminary Round. Turks and Caicos Islands won for their first points since February 6, 2008 and they will no longer have 0 FIFA Ranking points. FIFA Rankings will be released on Friday.
     
  10. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Caribbean_Cup_qualification#First_round has the First Round schedule. The games will be on September 3, 5, and 7. Here are my predictions (only make result predictions, score predictions start in the Second Round):

    Group 3 (at Martinique):
    Martinique: 9 points
    Suriname: 6 points
    Barbados: 1 point (ahead of Bonaire on goal differential)
    Bonaire: 1 point

    Group 4 (at Puerto Rico):
    Grenada: 7 points (ahead of Puerto Rico on goal differential)
    Puerto Rico: 7 points
    French Guiana: 3 points
    Curacao: 0 points

    Group 5 (at Antigua and Barbuda):
    Antigua and Barbuda: 7 points (ahead of Dominican Republic on goal differential)
    Dominican Republic: 7 points
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: 3 points
    Anguilla: 0 points

    Group 6 (at Saint Kitts and Nevis)
    Saint Lucia: 7 points (ahead of Guyana on goal differential)
    Guyana: 7 points
    Saint Kitts and Nevis: 3 points
    Dominica: 0 points

    The top two in each group and the best third place team advance. I'm predicting Saint Kitts and Nevis to be the best third place team. Based on my standings I think the results I'm predicting are obvious, but I'll post them if necessary.
     
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  11. ColeOfCentauri

    ColeOfCentauri New Member

    Jun 27, 2011
    Club:
    Puerto Rico Islanders
    Hello, sorry if this is off topic, but does anyone know if any website is streaming the Puerto Rico games?

    My Group 4 prediction
    Grenada 9
    Puerto Rico 6
    French Guiana 3
    Curaçao 0
     
  12. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The next round starts in 12 days. Would anybody like to make predictions? The teams in each group are listed in Post 10 of this topic.
     
  13. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Group 3 (at Martinique):
    Martinique: 9 points
    Suriname: 6 points
    Barbados: 3 point
    Bonaire: 0 points

    Group 4 (at Puerto Rico):
    Grenada: 9 points (ahead of Puerto Rico on goal differential)
    Puerto Rico: 6 points
    French Guiana: 3 points
    Curacao: 0 points

    Group 5 (at Antigua and Barbuda):
    Antigua and Barbuda: 7 points
    Dominican Republic: 5 points
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: 2 points
    Anguilla: 1 point

    Group 6 (at Saint Kitts and Nevis)
    Guyana: 9 points
    Saint Kitts and Nevis: 4 points (ahead of SL on goal diff)
    Saint Lucia: 4 points (best 3rd)
    Dominica: 0 points
     
  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Out of yesterday's 8 games, I got 3 right, IASocFan got 2 right, and ColeOfCentauri got 0 right out of 2 games predicted. I'm traveling on Monday, so I don't know when I will get to post the standings after Round 1 (which ends Sunday).
     
  15. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the standings after Round 1 out of a possible 31.2 points:

    1. EvanJ: 14.4 (I was the only one to predict the whole contest so far)
    2. IASocFan: 9.0
    3. ColeOfCentauri: 0.0

    For Round 2 you need to make score predictions. Both with this and with WCQs I require score predictions after many of the worst countries have been eliminated. Here are my Round 2 predictions:

    Group 7 (at Trinidad and Tobago):

    Antigua and Barbuda 2:1 St. Lucia
    Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 Dominican Republic
    Dominican Republic 2:3 Antigua and Barbuda
    Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 St. Lucia
    St. Lucia 1:2 Dominican Republic
    Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 Antigua and Barbuda

    Trinidad and Tobago: 9 points, +7
    Antigua and Barbuda: 6 points, 0
    Dominican Republic: 3 points, -2
    St. Lucia: 0 points, -5

    I'll predict Group 8 and Group 9 later.
     
  16. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Round 2 predictions:

    Group 7 (at Trinidad and Tobago):

    Antigua and Barbuda 1:1 St. Lucia
    Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 Dominican Republic
    Dominican Republic 1:1 Antigua and Barbuda
    Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 St. Lucia
    St. Lucia 1:2 Dominican Republic
    Trinidad and Tobago 2:0 Antigua and Barbuda

    Trinidad and Tobago: 9 points, +6
    Dominican Republic: 4 points, -1
    Antigua and Barbuda: 2 points, -2
    St. Lucia: 1 point, -3
     
  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Group 8 (at Haiti):

    St. Kitts and Nevis 2:1 Barbados
    Haiti 2:0 French Guiana
    French Guiana 1:2 St. Kitts and Nevis
    Haiti 3:0 Barbados
    Barbados 1:2 French Guiana
    Haiti 2:1 St. Kitts and Nevis

    Haiti: 9 points, +6
    St. Kitts and Nevis: 6 points, +1
    French Guiana: 3 points, -2
    Barbados: 0 points, -5

    Group 9 (at Guadeloupe):

    Martinique 2:0 Curacao
    Guadeloupe 2:0 St. Vincent and the Grenadines
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines 0:2 Martinique
    Guadeloupe 3:0 Curacao
    Curacao 2:1 St. Vincent and the Grenadines
    Guadeloupe 1:1 Martinique

    Guadeloupe: 7 points, +5
    Martinique: 7 points, +4
    Curacao: 3 points, -4
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines: 0 points, -5

    I don't know whether the first tiebreaker is goal differential or head-to-head, but it doesn't matter to me because I predict Guadeloupe and Martinique to be tied on points and head-to-head and the tie broken by goal differential.
     
  18. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Group 8 (at Haiti):

    St. Kitts and Nevis 2:0 Barbados
    Haiti 2:0 French Guiana
    French Guiana 1:0 St. Kitts and Nevis
    Haiti 3:0 Barbados
    Barbados 1:2 French Guiana
    Haiti 2:0 St. Kitts and Nevis

    Haiti: 9 points, +7
    French Guiana: 6 points, even
    St. Kitts and Nevis: 3 points, -1
    Barbados: 0 points, -6

    Group 9 (at Guadeloupe):

    Martinique 2:0 Curacao
    Guadeloupe 2:1 St. Vincent and the Grenadines
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines 0:1 Martinique
    Guadeloupe 3:0 Curacao
    Curacao 0:1 St. Vincent and the Grenadines
    Guadeloupe 2:1 Martinique

    Guadeloupe: 9 points, +5
    Martinique: 6 points, +2
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines: 3 points, -1
    Curacao: 0 points, -6
     
  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would anybody else like to make predictions?
     
  20. G Dawg

    G Dawg Member

    Apr 28, 2011
    Group 7 (at Trinidad and Tobago):

    Antigua and Barbuda 4:0 St. Lucia
    Trinidad and Tobago 1:0 Dominican Republic
    Dominican Republic 1:3 Antigua and Barbuda
    Trinidad and Tobago 3:0 St. Lucia
    St. Lucia 0:2 Dominican Republic
    Trinidad and Tobago 1:2 Antigua and Barbuda

    Group 8 (at Haiti):

    St. Kitts and Nevis 3:1 Barbados
    Haiti 3:1 French Guiana
    French Guiana 2:1 St. Kitts and Nevis
    Haiti 3:0 Barbados
    Barbados 0:2 French Guiana
    Haiti 4:0 St. Kitts and Nevis


    Group 9 (at Guadeloupe):

    Martinique 2:0 Curacao
    Guadeloupe 3:1 St. Vincent and the Grenadines
    St. Vincent and the Grenadines 1:0 Martinique
    Guadeloupe 3:0 Curacao
    Curacao 1:1 St. Vincent and the Grenadines
    Guadeloupe 2:1 Martinique
     
  21. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #21 EvanJ, Oct 12, 2014
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2014
    Here are the standings for Qualifying Round 2 out of a possible 27 points:

    1. EvanJ: 17.85
    2. IASocFan: 16.65
    3. G Dawg: 10.05

    For Group 8, everybody was 10 points off on the standings so everybody got the maximum possible score of 3.0 from that component.

    Here are the cumulative standings out of a possible 58.2 points:

    1. EvanJ: 32.25
    2. IASocFan: 25.65
    3. G Dawg: 10.05
    4. ColeOfCentauri: 0.00 (only predicted Group 4)

    I have to change how many points the different components of the Caribbean Cup will be worth because I started this topic anticipating two Semifinals and a Fifth Place game none of which will happen.

    The Caribbean Cup starts on November 10. All score and standings predictions for the Group Stage must be made before it starts. Also predict which Third Place team will finish fifth overall.

    Edit: Here is the scoring format for the Caribbean Cup:

    4. Caribbean Cup Group Stage: 35.8%
    All the Group Stage predictions must be made before the first Group Stage game.
    A. 1.0% per score prediction for a total of 12.0%
    B. 1.2% per team you were correct about their standings position for a total of 9.6%
    C. 0.6% per team you predicted first and they finished second, per team you predicted second and they finished first, per team you predicted third and they finished fourth, or per team you predicted fourth and they finished third for a total of 4.8%
    Parts B and C are mutually exclusive for a team, so 12.0% (Part A) + 9.6% (Part B) + 13.2% (Part D) + 1% (Part E) = 35.8% without adding the 4% (Part C).
    D. 6.6% per group for number of points you were off in the standings for each group for a total of 13.2%
    E. 1% for predicting the Fifth Place team

    5. Caribbean Cup games after the Group Stage: 6%
    A. 1.5% for the score prediction after regulation for each game for a total of 3%
    B. 1.5% for each game's winner for a total of 3%.
     
  22. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the Gold Cup forum it was posted that St. Kitts and Nevis may have finished ahead of French Guiana with head-to-head being the first tiebreaker. If that is the case then I will need to change the prediction scores. The Caribbean Cup groups are:

    Group A: Cuba, Trinidad and Tobago, French Guiana or St. Kitts and Nevis, and Curacao (don't predict this group yet)
    Group B: Jamaica, Martinique, Haiti, and Antigua and Barbuda
     
  23. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are my Caribbean Cup predictions:

    Group A:
    Curacao 1:4 Trinidad and Tobago
    Cuba 1:1 French Guiana
    Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 French Guiana
    Curacao 0:2 Cuba
    French Guiana 3:1 Curacao
    Cuba 3:1 Trinidad and Tobago

    Cuba: 7 points, 6 goals scored, 2 goals allowed, +4
    Trinidad and Tobago: 6 points, 7 goals scored, 5 goals allowed, +2
    French Guiana: 4 points, 5 goals scored, 4 goals allowed, +1
    Curacao: 0 points, 2 goals scored, 9 goals allowed, -7

    Group B:
    Haiti 1:2 Antigua and Barbuda
    Jamaica 2:1 Martinique
    Martinique 2:2 Haiti
    Jamaica 1:1 Antigua and Barbuda
    Antigua and Barbuda 1:0 Martinique
    Jamaica 1:1 Haiti

    Antigua and Barbuda: 7 points, 4 goals scored, 2 goals allowed, +2
    Jamaica: 5 points, 4 goals scored, 3 goals allowed, +1
    Haiti: 2 points, 4 goals scored, 5 goals allowed, -1
    Martinique: 1 points, 3 goals scored, 5 goals allowed, -2

    Score predictions for the Final and Third Place Game must be made once those teams are known.
     
  24. G Dawg

    G Dawg Member

    Apr 28, 2011
    Group A:
    Curacao 0:1 Trinidad and Tobago
    Cuba 1:2 French Guiana
    Trinidad and Tobago 0:1 French Guiana
    Curacao 0:2 Cuba
    French Guiana 2:1 Curacao
    Cuba 1:2 Trinidad and Tobago

    Group B:
    Haiti 1:2 Antigua and Barbuda
    Jamaica 2:1 Martinique
    Martinique 2:1 Haiti
    Jamaica 0:1 Antigua and Barbuda
    Antigua and Barbuda 3:1 Martinique
    Jamaica 0:1 Haiti
     
  25. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    my Caribbean Cup predictions:

    Group A:
    Curacao 0-2 Trinidad and Tobago
    Cuba 1:0 French Guiana
    Trinidad and Tobago 2:1 French Guiana
    Curacao 0:2 Cuba
    French Guiana 2:1 Curacao
    Cuba 0-1 Trinidad and Tobago

    Cuba: 6 points,+2
    Trinidad and Tobago: 9 points,
    French Guiana: 3 points,
    Curacao: 0 points,

    Group B:
    Haiti 1:0 Antigua and Barbuda
    Jamaica 2:1 Martinique
    Martinique 2:1 Haiti
    Jamaica 3:1 Antigua and Barbuda
    Antigua and Barbuda 0-1 Martinique
    Jamaica 4-1 Haiti
     

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