Putin and the Russian invasion of Ukraine

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  1. minerva

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    are you insinuating that Iran invented moles?
     
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  2. Mr. Conspiracy

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  3. RitztotheRubble

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    the fact that it's the israeli media reporting it makes me doubt the truth in this. various international news sites i have looked at are not reporting this, and although the bbc did make a mention to it, they also said that it hasn't been confirmed at all. maybe i'm wrong, but it sounds like israel scrambling for legitimacy.
     
  4. Waliatiger

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    Name them
     
  5. Waliatiger

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    Israeli media is a joke.
     
  6. Real Corona

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    Corruption, murder, assault, kidnapping, abuse of power.... pretty much the entire spectrum. It's pretty obvious.
     
  7. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    Based on what, exactly?
     
  8. minerva

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    Preconceived notions.
     
  9. Borussia

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    Free hand? Somehow you don't check something.

    So you really believe that Russia would quasi get a "free hand" in Europa without US interference. I don't believe that.
     
  10. Waliatiger

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    Proof...

    And even if this was true how is this any different the American government or any other government. You don't think other governments engage in corruption, murder or abuse of power you want me to cite you how the good ole USA practices all the time.

    You still haven't answered my question who gave the opposition the right to forcibly remove a freely elected president.
     
  11. Waliatiger

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    They are heavily pro Israeli governmental policy regardless of who is in power.they are not the fourth estate kinda like how the corporate US mainstream media is a joke
     
  12. minerva

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    Lol. Yeah, pretty much.
     
  13. Real Corona

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    As far as I know Barack Obama has not personally directed the murder and kidnapping of individuals, but if he has, by all means it wouldn't make him any less guilty than anybody else who also murdered and kidnapped.
     
  14. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    LOL, Israeli media can be very critical of the Israeli government. As for the "corporate US mainstream media" being a joke, what media isn't a joke then according to you?
     
  15. Boloni86

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    There's a few thousand drone victims that would disagree with this and as far as I know the CIA still nabs people and transfers them to 3rd party nations.
     
  16. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    I think you missed a few words in that sentence.
     
  17. Waliatiger

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    Yes he has, sure they are enemy cimbantants
    Democracy now, al jazzera English, BBC, RT.
     
  18. Waliatiger

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    Seriously he hasn't........ I like the guy but he has done some questionable things on those matters.
     
  19. yasik19

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  20. Waliatiger

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    Whatever you might be anti-Russia but RT is a great news source.
     
  21. teammellieIRANfan

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    #1022 teammellieIRANfan, Apr 20, 2014
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    The so called "alternative media" on social internet websites like youtube, twitter, blogs, forums (TheRealNews, TheYoungTurks, democracynow, RT, wikileaks etc) is beginning to genuinly rival the "conventional" media.
    The latter is loosing a lot of viewers.

    But I think this also has a lot to do with the fact that increasingly more people are turning away from their TV's and go and surf on the internet.

    Thats why TV's are becoming more cheap and laptops relatively expensive. No one wants a TV anymore but everyone wants a laptop or some kind of tablet. :)
     
  22. Real Corona

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    RT is not alternative media, RT is straight from the minister of Russian propaganda media.
     
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  23. Real Corona

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    I'm sure that the UN has accepted the defense of, "well if somebody else murdered somebody once, it should be okay."
     
  24. ceezmad

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    Fvck RT is the Russian Fox News.
     

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