News: Tannenwald: Atlanta in as #22

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by lfcli30, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. joehooligan0303

    joehooligan0303 Member+

    Dec 16, 2001
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    haha.
    my feelings would be hurt if I were serious ;)
    You mean you don't want to sit in the Boars Nest? Seattle has the Hawks Nest and they invented soccer in an NFL stadium.
     
  2. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean they invented inventing
     
  3. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What you want to do of you're US soccer is schedule a game immediately following any University of Alabama sporting event; therefore ensuring that every trailer dwelling Bama fan will tune in either because he's to drunk to get up and change the channel, or because he's passed out in the recliner with the TV still on. That's what happened a little over a year ago. Market 44( market #1 for college football) can and will strongly support an international match, but only if it follows at least two hours of beer drinking Rowe Tahds!
     
  4. joehooligan0303

    joehooligan0303 Member+

    Dec 16, 2001
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except for that is not how TV ratings are gathered. Your TV doesn't magically report to the ratings companies what you are watching and you leaving your TV on has no affect on ratings. So even if your scenario was true it wouldn't affect TV ratings unless the person who was too drunk to get up was able identify what they were watching and answer a TV ratings survey telephone call or fill out a TV diary and send it off in the mail.
     
  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nielsen uses a combination of diaries and electronic methods to measure audiences:

    http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/nielsen-solutions/nielsen-measurement/nielsen-tv-measurement.html

     
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  6. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. joehooligan0303

    joehooligan0303 Member+

    Dec 16, 2001
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right but the person has to actually have the electronic device in their house. It doesn't just report every drunk redneck in AL's TV that is left on. There is a small number of these devices in use. Most people think that your TV just magically reports your watching habits to them.
     
  8. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #983 Fiosfan, Apr 17, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2014
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    Tab5g do you know this guy?...
     
  9. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    But if the right (soccer) viewer is randomly selected and accepts to be a metered home in Nielsen's methodological sample, then their viewing helps represent the overall projected/estimated amount of viewing (of whatever) in that market locally (and population weight-projected out to the total US national rating that Nielsen reports as well).
     
  10. joehooligan0303

    joehooligan0303 Member+

    Dec 16, 2001
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #985 joehooligan0303, Apr 17, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2014
    yes you are right IF several random people out of 330 million Americans happen to be in AL watching a football game and get drunk and passout when a soccer games comes on after the football game AND happen to have a Nielsen digital device in their house....it could affect the ratings. This goes for anything else this random hypothetical drunk watches after passing out.

    Wow...just wow. That is a solid argument. :/

    Only 25,000 out of over 100million households participate in Nielsen ratings. I am sure most of these households are drunk football fans in AL.
     
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  11. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He complains about the quality of MLS yet an age restricted tournament match is one of the best he's ever seen.
     
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  12. SoCalYid

    SoCalYid Member+

    Jun 11, 2011
    BigSoccer :)
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has anyone discussed what happens to the $300m in expansion fees from NYCFC, Orlando and Atlanta?
     
  13. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    The MLS BoG has probably discussed it (and/or just pocketed a good portion of it).
     
  14. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To pay the new mods on BS...o_O:barefoot:
     
  15. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you at saying a NIT Quarterfinal game involving Bama immediately before the US-Mexico game had nothing to do with the out of nowhere rating? What I'm saying ,with a little humor injected because I love making fun of Bama fans, is the Birmingham rating had a hell of lot to do with the Bama basketball lead in. Birmingham one of the largest college sports TV markets so one had something to do with the other.
     
  16. joehooligan0303

    joehooligan0303 Member+

    Dec 16, 2001
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It might have but the scenario you proposed is highly unlikely and it sounded like you thought (like many do) that if your TV was on you were automatically counted in the ratings. There was no indication that you understood that isn't how it worked.

    I have personally taken part in Nielsen ratings and one of my pet peeves is people thinking that your TV magically reports your watching habits without your knowledge or approval. I may have come across strong because of this pet peeve.

    With only 25,000 homes taking place in ratings it only takes a few in a city to legitimately be watching something to skew the numbers. It is a highly flawed system but that is a whole other discussion. The people that have the devices are usually much more conscience about what they are watching and don't just leave their TVs on.
     
  17. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, but that wasn't part of the plan when they started.

    My main point is that it's silly to castigate Atlanta for being an expansion team without a grass-field SSS when almost no expansion team has had a grass-field SSS.
     
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  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You thought she was an older boy? Jesus, you must be freakin' blind.

    :D
     
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  19. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The notion of a "stolen team" is a conceit.
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of those weird cases where something was stolen BY the owner rather than FROM the owner. It's ironic that a guy with an anti-socialism rant in his sig would fail to see the distinction.
     
  21. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was a fan of a team that relocated (the Houston Oilers) and I'm a fan of one that relocated from elsewhere (the Dallas Stars).

    Have I wished ill on Bud Adams many, many times over the last 15-20 years since the Oilers relocated to Tennessee? Sure. (And like most Oilers fans, I wished ill on him beforehand, but for different reasons.) But I don't feel for a second that Nashville "stole" the Oilers, and I don't wish any ill on the people of Nashville for having the temerity to cheer for their NFL team. They made it more worth Adams' while to move his team than Houston did for him to stay. And while that sucked for the people whose livelihoods depended on those Oilers home games at the Astrodome, I'm not one of those people. I'm just some slob who watched the games on TV and bought t-shirts and occasionally attended them in person. His moving the team meant that I'd just spend my Sunday afternoons in the fall watching someone else or going to the movies or whatever.

    Somebody more cynical than I would say that came to this place mentally to rationalize away that I cheer for a "stolen team," but in the end, this is just the toy department of life.
     
  22. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, name suggestions? Birds seem to be popular in Atlanta sports. I'm partial to animal team names, personally. It gives the team a classic feel and it doesn't feel dated a decade later.
     
  23. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Yep. A simple and effective presentation that should convey the general idea to anyon most of the people who watch it. A stadium that hasn't been built yet can't very well (and shouldn't be expected to) have vids up...
     
  24. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    In your opinion, but as you know opinions are like..well you know the rest.
     
  25. ivannomad

    ivannomad Member

    Aug 7, 2007
    Tyler, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    thanks for making the same point i did ********stick. they should have had to. Now no one has to.
     

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