2014/17 Keisuke Honda @ A.C. Milan (ITA)

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  1. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
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    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
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    UC Sampdoria
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    Japan
    Besides Honda's will, Milan acted like Milan. Like always.
     
  2. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    #77 Dax, Dec 24, 2013
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    Not to take anything away from Sponichi, but considering the level of the italian of those generally asking those questions (going by Yuto's press conferences, etc.) I wonder how much is lost in translation there lol
    I guess many things will get out in the press conference again anyway

    LOL @ Giner still salty. Gtfo.
    http://fc-cska.ru/football/news/text/30713/evgeniy-giner-s-akinfeevim-mi-dogovorilis/ here's the original source, it seems.

    If you refer to contacting a player before it's allowed, I have some bad news for you. The truth is that it happens every time. So it's not surprising that Keisuke and his brother had to deny it.
     
  3. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
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    UC Sampdoria
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    Japan
    The truth is Milan has a degree in this kind of things. A criminal degree. Like Juventus did with Emerson in 2004.
     
  4. Harima83

    Harima83 Member

    Nov 1, 2009
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    All clubs contact players without respecting official rules.
    All clubs.
     
  5. uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89

    Nov 27, 2010
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    HAHA, suck that CSKA

    "Contract extension" rofl
     
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  6. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
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    UC Sampdoria
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    Japan
    So let me get this straight. If it's shit, then let's get it to everyone? That's why we got to this point in first place.
     
  7. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    No, I think the point is that CSKA's president teaching the morals of the market sounds hardly believable.
    Look, the truth is that CSKA was probably hoping to see a bid war among clubs, but it didn't happen because Keisuke chose Milan.

    Giner made his choice with keeping Keisuke as he says, right. I know, he ended in Milan anyway and they didn't get any money but that's their fault, not Milan's.
    "Honda and his brother had promised me that they would sign a contract extension" sure, I remember that. The promise was that he was going to sign if no decent offers came.
    They knew perfectly that you can't ask too much when it gets to the last 6 months, let alone if they have the player's decision. And it's their fault that it came to that too since they didn't accept Lazio's offer back then (not that there was anything wrong in declining, of course. It's either the money or the player).

    Then Milan came and Keisuke made his choice. A more realistic truth seems to be that probably that they didn't like to be put under a very unfavourable position, maybe they hoped that Keisuke was going to give up before the end of august and pick Everton, dunno. Judgding by the whining I can hardly say that they didn't care anymore...

    But to whine after the transfer "we didn't surrend to Milan, we got ********ed anyway but hey Keisuke and his brother lied to us!!1" just makes him pathetic.
    All the actors acted with pride here and we know how it ended. That's what led to this point.

    In the full article he also adds that he did notice Keisuke's recent lack of focus, but to bench him was a choice that the coach had to make.
    I wonder why he wasn't benched :whistling:
     
  8. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
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    Kashima Antlers
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    Japan
    Oh boy Keisuke and his love for Milan :p
     
  9. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    well, on paper, if we imagine that Everton was the other biggest club, Milan was the only CL-level club, so I can kind of understand that

    little did he know they were going to have their worst year since the likes of '96 :ninja:
    but knowing him the whole recovery will just make things more exciting for him probably
     
  10. Someguy1229

    Someguy1229 Member

    Sep 21, 2012
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    Chelsea FC
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    Lol @ CSKA being mad. So unprofessional.
     
  11. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
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    FC Salzburg
    The plague or the cholera, hard to chose a side. I can't really have sympathy for italian football after all the fixing matches affairs.
     
  12. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    I don't want to be you when you'll find out that the same things happen everywhere, like in La Liga last time, and recently in the Championship. Whenever there's big money involved, there will always be stuff behind the shadows. Shouldn't stop your enjoyment, as it's just a bunch of matches, and usually involves some specific refs\players
     
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  13. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
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    I know some wicked stuff is going on everywhere but since it's known in Italy, I have legit reasons to be disgusted instead of simply speculating :)
     
  14. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Ohohoh someone is so irritated by the loser and embarrassing show performed by his french team in UCL that now he can't stop to criticize and nearly insult the whole Italian football system?
    AC Milan was actually (and sadly) the best choice for Keisuke and the right place where spark and be ready for the incoming WC.
    Milan shitty situation is only a better background/screenplay where Keisuke will play his classical and classy anime style performance.
    Waiting for his first fk goal in Sansiro. Really.
     
  15. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
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    in this i agree with teioh. Milan imo will be a nice place before WC for Honda
     
  16. naopon

    naopon Member+

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    Nice of Materazzi and Zidane to drop by the Japan forum.
     
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  17. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    How is Materazzi regarded in Italy by the way? Is he regarded as a national hero for Italy just like Zidane for France and Maradona for Argentina?
     
  18. -Kodemari

    -Kodemari Member

    Jan 15, 2012
    Trento, Italy
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    Consadole Sapporo
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    Italy
    No
    Maybe after the 2006 WC he enjoyed a brief increase in popularity but he was never liked much, as he wasn't that strong of a player (he didn't gain a starting spot in the NT) and had a deprecable attitude.
     
  19. Gordon1995

    Gordon1995 Member+

    Oct 3, 2013
    Why was he never liked much? Is he not liked much because of the fans of other rival clubs to Inter Milan because he was an Inter Milan player? How was Zidane regarded in Italy after the headbutt?
     
  20. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    wtf is an anime style performance haha. Maybe going super saiyan?
    Gordon, please let's stay on thread. He's just a retard.
     
  21. naopon

    naopon Member+

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    Reminds me of this:

    Let's hope that Honda inspires Italian commentators to compare him to Vivaldi.
     
  22. naopon

    naopon Member+

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  23. SamuraiBlue2002

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  24. naopon

    naopon Member+

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