It seems like the big Seattle/Portland match will have football lines. So aggravating that every time we get a good match up on TV, it is always being screwed up by something (star players getting injured, football lines, 0-0 game, going up against exceptionally strong tv competition, etc.). It just seems like MLS is always so unlucky.
The fact that you compare football lines to the rest of those things, and assume that 0-0 = screwed up, is just annoying.
The SKC vs NER match tonight has horrid NFL lines on the field. The soccer lines are virtually invisible.
Starting to wonder? That was main concern brought up with the new EPL deal. The problem isn't local die hards. The problem is pulling in neutrals. Right now neutrals have plenty of and increasing access to the top leagues. But it's not just neutrals. Even MLS die hards here admit to not watching MLS matches not featuring their own team. If MLS diehards alone started watching more of the neutral matchups ratings would go up. If MLS diehards won't watch neutral matches in decent numbers, why would anyone expect non-MLS diehards to watch?
I do in the CCL. But yes outside of the Fire and CCL games, I usually watch liga mx on saturday afternoons since I no longer have NBCSN
i'll say one reason why it's hard to get the neutrals to watch on tv... the lack of mainstream coverage. to repeat what i was saying earlier, most mls customers aren't 'fans' like you find for the major sports. lots of people at the last nyrb game didn't know about the ss. it's not their fault. they're good soccer customers. but whereas anyone can tell you whether the yankees are on a winning or a losing streak, and that the ny giants started 0-6, that kind of familiarity with mls is rare. why? largely because for the other sports all you need is to catch a sport report while driving your car, or a glance at the headline in a newspaper. for mls you have to go look. which is why moving to a different schedule won't make much difference. either you're mainstream, or you aren't. that's the key.
Really well said. This is a reason I think having a consistent television "home" for the league is important. NBCSN is small enough with the need for content, that I think they could make MLS mainstream on that particular network. NBCSN.....your home for all that is soccer. Something like that.
Isn't that gol tv? Plus all that is soccer would need La liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, Liga MX, Champions league on top of what NBC already has.
I don't know that they'd literally have to carry all the league games. But yeah, highlight shows for all the top leagues would be a must wiht an anglo-american focus. I don't know that I'd call goltv mainstream. Quite the opposite.
ESPN FC has been doing a consistently good job of covering USA and MLS soccer. I personally believe that the growth of interest in the MNT is going to start paying off with increased viewership MLS down the road. When the down the road actually occurs, who knows?
https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/tuesday-nov-05-2013.1996420/#post-28998357 According to this post from Fiosfan which links a screenshot of an Sports Business Daily article, it says MLS averaged 229,000 for its UniMas telecasts this season.
According to the article, it's actually in comparison to the 2011 season, which is "the last time the league was featured on the Univision-owned network formerly known as Telefutura."
Here is some historical data 1) 2012 Spanish language was on Galavision and averaged ~57k 2) 2011 games were split between Telefutura and Galavision with the following break down Galavision: 18 games: 72k Telefutura: 12 games 233K rating I have no idea where the 21% growth is coming from.
Sadly, it changes nothing imo. The ratings are basically flat from the 2011 games on Telefutura according to our historical numbers.
Adding in the Unimas yearly average. ========================= MLS 2013 TV Ratings Summary Home teams listed first. All times are Eastern NBC Sports Network (all ratings for 2.5 hour window unless specified) Game 0: 95k (RSL vs SEA) Saturday 7:30pm 2/23/2013* Game 1: 107k (HOU vs DC). Saturday 8:00pm. 3/2/2013 Game 2: 79k (CHI vs NE) Saturday 7:30pm 3/9/2013 Game 3: 82k (KC vs CHI) Saturday 3:00pm 3/16/2013 Game 4: 209k (SEA vs POR) Saturday 8:00pm 3/16/2013 Game 5: 97k (DC vs COLU) Saturday 3:30pm 3/23/2013 Game 6: 100k (NY vs PHI) Saturday 3:30pm 3/30/2013 Game 7: 41k (COLO vs RSL) Saturday 7:30pm 4/6/2013 Game 8: 86k (DAL vs LA) Saturday 3:30pm 4/13/2013 Game 9: 108k (POR vs SJ) Sunday 10:30pm 4/14/2013 Game 10: 58k (LA vs KC) Saturday 10:30pm 4/21/2013 Game 11: 53k (MON vs CHI) Saturday 4:00pm 4/27/2013 Game 12: 122k (COLU vs NY) Saturday 4:00pm 5/4/2013 Game 13: 51k (CHI vs PHI) Saturday 1:30pm 5/11/2013 Game 14: 80k (KC vs HOU) Sunday 3:30pm 5/26/2013 Game 15: 96k (NE vs LA) Sunday 4:00pm 6/2/2013 Game 16: 149k (SEA vs VAN) Saturday 10:30pm 6/8/2013 Game 17: 133k (POR vs COLO) Sunday 7:00pm 6/23/2013 Game 18: 123k (PHI vs DAL) Saturday 5:30pm 6/29/2013 Game 19: 173k (VAN vs SEA) Saturday 11:00pm 7/6/2013 Game 20: 126k (POR vs LA) Saturday 11:00pm 7/13/2013 Game 21: 94k (HOU vs CHI) Saturday 8:00pm 7/27/2013 Game 22: 83k (KC vs NY) Saturday 6:30pm 8/3/2013 Game 23: 58k (PHI vs DC) Saturday 8:00pm 8/10/2013 Game 24: 110k (NY vs PHI) Saturday 8:00pm 8/17/2013 Game 25: 133k (CHI vs KC) Friday 8:30pm 8/23/2013 Game 26: 171k (RSL vs POR) Friday 10:00pm 8/30/2013 Game 27: 67k (NY vs DC) Saturday 8:00pm 8/31/2013 Game 28: 102k (SEA vs CHI) Saturday 10:00pm 9/7/2013 Game 29: 177k (SEA vs RSL) Friday 10:00pm 9/13/2013 Game 30: 131k (POR vs COL) Friday 10:00pm 9/20/2013 Game 31: 247k (LA vs SEA) Saturday 10:00pm 9/21/2013 Game 32: 98k (KC vs PHI) Friday 8:00pm 9/27/2013 Game 33: 89k (DC vs CHI) Friday 8:00pm 10/4/2013 Game 34: 183k (COLO vs SEA) Saturday 10:00pm 10/5/2013 Game 35: 83k(KC vs DC) Friday 8:00pm 10/18/2013 Game 36: 189k (PHI vs KC) Saturday 3:00pm 10/26/2013 Game 37: 68k (SJ vs DAL) Saturday 5:30pm 10/26/2013 Average: 103k * This was the Preseason Diamond Cup final. ESPN2 (all ratings are for a 2.5 hour window unless specified) Game 1: 221k (POR vs NY) Sunday 7:30pm 3/3/2013 Game 2: 179k (SJ vs NY) Sunday 10:00pm 3/10/2013 Game 3: 108k (DAL vs HOU) Sunday 1:00pm 3/17/2013 Game 4: 157k (CHI vs NY) Sunday 5:00pm 4/7/2013 Game 5: 170k (DC vs PHI) Sunday 5:00pm 4/21/2013 Game 6: 145k (LA vs HOU) Sunday 11:00pm 5/5/2013 Game 7: 250k (LA vs NY) Sunday 1:00pm 5/19/2013* Game 8: 191k (LA vs SEA) Sunday 11:00pm 5/26/2013 Game 9: 393k (NY vs HOU) Sunday 2:00pm 6/30/2013** Game 10: 138k (COLO vs LA) Saturday 7:00pm 7/27/2013*** All-Star Game: 319k (MLS vs Roma) Wednesday 7:00pm 7/31/2013 Game 11: 184k (DAL vs LA) Sunday 8:00pm 8/11/2013 Game 12: 346k (SEA vs POR) Sunday 10:00pm 8/25/2013 Game 13: 82k (SJ vs PHI) Sunday 11:00pm 9/8/2013* Average: 197k (does not include All Star Game) *Window was 128 minutes **Window was only 80 minutes due to Confed Cup game running long ***Window was 126 minutes ESPN(all ratings are for ~2 hour window). Game 1: 262k (POR vs DAL) Saturday 5:00pm 6/15/2013 Game 2: 323k (PHI vs NY) Sunday 5:00pm 6/23/2013 Game 3: 331k (CHI vs KC) Sunday 3:00pm 7/7/2013 Game 4: 300k (SEA vs NY) Sunday 9:00pm 9/29/2013 Game 5: 189k (POR vs SEA) Sunday 9:00pm 10/13/2013 Game 6: 232k (LA vs SJ) Sunday 9:00pm 10/20/2013 Game 7: 247k (SEA vs LA) Sunday 9:00pm 10/27/2013 Average: 269K Unimas 26 games: 229k average NBC Game 1: (NY vs DC) Saturday 12:30pm 3/16/2013 Overnight: .7 Final: .3, 461k Game 2: (POR vs LA) Sunday 3:30pm 9/29/2013 Overnight: .3* Game 3: (DAL vs SEA) Saturday 2:30pm 10/19/2013 Final: .3, 395k Game 4: (DC vs HOU) Sunday 1:30pm 10/27/2013 Final: .2, 294k *Not sure if this is overnight or the fast national rating
What is the correlation? I don't think the ESPN and Unimas games overlap. And the Unimas numbers are not that much different from the Telefutura numbers of 2011.
I don't know but perhaps the person who wrote the article averaged the 12 telefutura games with the 18 Galavision games and this came out to be 21% lower than this years Unimas ratings. Idk, just trying to make some sense of it.
Something is amiss. I believe the 229k number, as that seems just about right, but I don't know how the 21% number was calculated.