The 2013 Table - Magic Numbers, Tragic Numbers & Other Fishy Figures [R]

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  1. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #801 henryo, Oct 26, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2013
    On this aspect, the current record holder should be RSL of 2011, going 0W-4L-2T in their final 6 games back then:

    http://aragon.ws/soccerdb/league/table.php?stageId=1006&matches=0&rounds=2&roundCount=6

    Seattle may well extend it to 7 games, another new record in waiting... :p
     
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  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 2013 Quakes join the 2012 Crew as the only two teams to get to 1.5 pts/game over the course of the season but not make the playoffs.
     
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  3. ucraymond

    ucraymond Member

    Mar 18, 2006
    So, I've been hearing that New England control their own destiny! They can now ensure qualification with a win! Yay!
    ...oh crap.
     
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  4. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Says much about the increasingly competitive playoff field, such "High PPG Casualties" are likely going to become the norm from 2012 onwards...

    Before 2012, the best team to miss PO was KC in 2005, with a PPG of 1.41, W-L of +2, and GD of +8!
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Don't remind me.
     
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  6. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
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    Notes

    COL clinches, as expected. POR secures top seed in the Western Conference. RSL and POR have been eliminated from the SS race. So it's down to NYR and SKC. If NYR loses or draws, then SKC wins the shield. If NYR wins, then the shield belongs to Rotmasters. Meanwhile, CHI advances to the playoffs with any result other than a loss. Which means: FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS RIGHTEOUS AND HOLY, WHATEVER YOU DO, CHICAGO, DON'T LOSE!
     
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  7. Socarchist

    Socarchist Member+

    Feb 21, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Chicago, Houston and New England each makes the playoffs with a win because any one of them will exceed Montreal's 49 points, so all three teams control their own destiny. I'm not up to speed on the tiebreakers at 49 points. The MLS website is inaccurate. Again.
     
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  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At 48 New England beats Houston for the final playoff spot (48 goals to 39).
    A 4 way tie at 49 leaves Houston as the odd team out (Chicago and Montreal through with 14 wins, then New England through on goals scored).
    A 2 way tie at 49 between Chicago and Montreal leaves Chicago as the odd team out unless they score 5 goals tomorrow in a loss.
     
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  9. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the event of a tie on 49 points, Montreal and Chicago are ahead of the others on wins, and Montreal will be ahead of Chicago on goals unless Chicago scores 5+ goals. If Chicago scores exactly 5 goals, Montreal would be ahead on goal difference.
    New England is ahead of Houston in a 49 or 48 point tie on goals unless Houston scores 9+ goals. If Houston scores exactly 9 goals, New England is ahead on goal difference.

    So, barring huge goalscoring outbursts, the standings in the event of ties are:
    1. Montreal
    2. Chicago
    3. New England
    4. Houston
     
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  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Scratch that. They'll likely need a win depending on other results.
     
  11. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago is in with a draw - they would be on 50 points and could only be caught by New England and Houston.
     
  12. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    By the way, with the 2-1 win over FCD in their final (home) game of 2013, S.J. has set several new records in the process:
    Bravo!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::cry::cry:

     
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  13. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Golf clap for San Jose. It was a decent year for them after all.
     
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  14. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #814 henryo, Oct 27, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2013
    Indeed...

    S.J. have in fact defended the honors of Defending SS Winners right down to the last minute of last game and exit in the most dignified manner.

    They were unbeaten in their final 7 games (matching SS-chasing NYRB), possibly yet another record for a team eliminated from playoffs: :thumbsup::thumbsup:
    http://aragon.ws/soccerdb/league/table.php?stageId=1547&matches=0&rounds=2&roundCount=7

    This is, of course, in stark contracts to Seattle's 6-game win-less streak, which could be extended to 7 tomorrow (only WS Runners-up Chivas did worse), despite making the playoffs: :eek::eek:
    http://aragon.ws/soccerdb/league/table.php?stageId=1547&matches=0&rounds=2&roundCount=6
     
  15. Neuwerld

    Neuwerld Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
    California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Pretty weird to think that we (San Jose) had a better home record this season than last season, considering we won the Shield last year and missed the playoffs this year. We also conceded ones less goal this year than last year. I guess it just shows how good last year's SJ team was on the road, how underwhelming this year's team was on the road, and how much the 2012 Earthquakes relied on outscoring their opponent rather than grinding out wins.

    That said, it did turn out to be a much less awful season than it was shaping up to be. At one point we were competing for the worst ppg of a Shield-holder. Through 15 games of the season we were on 1.00 ppg. Under Watson we finished the season with 36 points in 19 games for 1.89 ppg...which is actually pretty close to our 1.94 from last season.
     
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  16. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    Timbers secure WestCo home field advantage with more ties than wins.

    Soccer is goofy.
     
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  17. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Yes, but not losing games all that often means you have a very good team.

    What's the MLS record for single regular season "Wins - losses" total?

    Where does Portland's "+9" rank all time?
     
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  18. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know about all time, but San Jose was +13 last year - 19 wins and 6 losses. Kansas City was +11 - 18 wins and 7 losses. In 2011, LA was +14 - 19 wins and 5 losses.
     
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  19. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The factors required for Montréal to fall to 6th seem so implausible, yet I have the dreaded feeling that it's certain to happen. :(

    Though imagine Houston, Chicago and the Revs all lose?

    It would be the worst backing into third place ever :)
     
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  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I refuse to imagine Chicago losing.
     
  21. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Hard to imagine New York, Columbus and DC United all winning.
     
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  22. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Soccer is soccer.
     
  23. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    No matter how they "announced" it I'll give MLS full credit: wins and goals for has definitely made understanding the table and end-of-season scenarios easier than the old head-to-head (that got ridiculously complicated when it involved more than one team).
     
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  24. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Yes, you're right and I was right the first time for once!
     
  25. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    True dat.

    And as the league expands, the number of teams close to the playoff line should only continue to increase (on average)
     
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