Pre-match: USA vs Mexico, September 10th 2013.

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  1. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Don't kids yourself. The Donovan goal was at a WC finals match. MANY people are aware of it. Certainly they reacted wildly at the time. How can you not? It is the essence of sport, such as Kordell Stewart of Flutie hail Mary throws, or the English team end-to-end dash from the PK save to win the match last season or a Kirk Gibson home run even though you may not have a rooting interest in either side.

    Jumping around and celebrating, hugging, carrying on 10 minutes later, that was American.
     
  2. JonfromVegas

    JonfromVegas Member

    Mar 27, 2007
    Las Vegas
    Those saying a "desperate" Mexico will be dangerous need a history lesson. Mexico is a mentally weak team. They ALWAYS fold under pressure.

    A confident Mexico is dangerous. Confident Mexico beats Brazil and wins Olympic gold medals.

    They are far from confident now. We got this.
     
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  3. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I grew up in a baseball family but I don't even like baseball, but that was one of the most awesome moments in sports history in my opinion. The guy only had one good leg he had to knock it out of the park to get to first base safely.
     
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  4. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    I am a Met fan and that Met team that the Dodgers eliminated was a damn good one. Friggin Hersheiser and Mike Sciocsia. So I hated the Dodgers.

    I remember standing in a bar in college when that HR happened. It was magical. Donovan goal-like. USA Hockey is about the only event higher.
     
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  5. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This trumps all ...
     
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  6. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only two to go.
     
  7. Pablo Chicago

    Pablo Chicago Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    Sweet Home Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean like a 'desperate' Mexico that was on the brink of elimination from the 2002 WC after suffering early defeats against the United States, Honduras and Costa Rica and the sacking of head coach Enrique Meza?

    Remind me again which country Javier Aguirre beat in is first game as coach of a mentally weak team that ALWAYS fold under pressure?

    Thanks for the history lesson.
     
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  8. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The one constant - besides the scoreline ;)...in all of this has been Landon Donovan.

    On the bench in 2001, integral in 2005 and 2009.

    Look for The Mexicutioner to rise to the occasion one more time.
     
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  9. TheyCallMeBruce

    TheyCallMeBruce Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    If Landon has a monster game and wins this, I'll make a joke about getting his face tattooed on my body, but not actually do it.
     
  10. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A very very large difference in having your first match as head coach against your hated rival at home where you'd never lost and having your first match as head coach against your hated rival on the road in a place you've never won...in fact, in WCQ's, you've never scored.

    Also a very big difference in this being Matchday 8 as opposed to Matchday 6.
     
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  11. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Cool, Salcido's starting. Now we know which side the US is going to be constantly attacking.
     
  12. Pablo Chicago

    Pablo Chicago Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    Sweet Home Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Point taken, however, my issue with the previous poster was his assertion some of us need a history lesson because a desperate Mexico team ALWAYS folds under pressure. I provided evidence to the contrary.

    I remember a lot of overconfident people saying we were going to get our first win in Azteca during 2002 WC qualifying because the Mexican team was in a shambles.
     
  13. papermache16

    papermache16 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, the last time Aguirre leapt to the rescue (in 2009), they lost their first match - at el Salvador.

    They picked it up later on but that was because they had six more matches in the hex.... is it too late for them?
     
  14. Tiki21

    Tiki21 Member

    Jul 31, 2013
    Idaho
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know this won't happen but I would like to see JJ on the bench with Beckerman to assist the back line and have him paired with Mixx. It is asking a lot but we need some creativity in the middle with MB out.
     
  15. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. FW__

    FW__ Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Chattanooga, TN
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You realize the Maginot Line was pretty damn strong and that Hitler didn't actually attack it, and that's why he overran France so easily. Comparing a bunkering defense to the Maginot Line is actually a compliment.
     
  17. TheyCallMeBruce

    TheyCallMeBruce Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Really, it would mean that we were giving up goals because the other team was consistently beating Vincent Kompany.
     
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  18. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    He's been the CDM lately, as far as I know, as opposed to the left back.
     
  19. FW__

    FW__ Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Chattanooga, TN
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well played, but it would also mean that the English were late in sending Joe Hart to help out Kompany
     
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  20. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The rules dont allow for that. IN fact, confederation rules provide for review of red cards, but not yellows.

    That said, I daresay that the AR is getting a bad review and just gave his international career a big kick in the head.

    Now, a ban for simulation would be interesting, but no confederation has gone in for post match video review to my knowledge. Generally, waht the ref says is law, not to be second guess, errors and all. IT's what makes it the beautiful sport. After all, no video replay at the U-12 level or pick up street ball in Salvador, so no video replay in qualifiers.
     
  21. FW__

    FW__ Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Chattanooga, TN
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ask them who the Vice President is. Ask them the capital of Nevada. Ask them how many Dakotas there are.
     
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  22. Pablo Chicago

    Pablo Chicago Member+

    Sep 7, 2005
    Sweet Home Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, a lot of good it did. Like the Maginot Line, our back line is way too easy to get around.
     
  23. FW__

    FW__ Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Chattanooga, TN
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't there some traffic you can play in?
     
  24. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well and longs as the fans bring it, I don't see a let down in the early pressure Mexico will try to bring.

    To all Fans, I don't think there has been a more important game for us to be as loud as posible as this one.
     
  25. TheyCallMeBruce

    TheyCallMeBruce Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    So, in conclusion, the Maginot line of soccer is Mario Gomez scoring on Hugo Lloris by beating Vicent Kompany because Joe Hart didn't show up in time.
     

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