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  1. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    isn't this essentially what BR was trying to do last year - but with a much inferior set of players? (he has some time to implement this at Swansea and it seems to work pretty well)
     
  2. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Reports in Spain saying that a 104.5m pound deal has been agreed for Bale.
    If true, Levy is one ridiculous negotiator! Getting 24.5m more than the world record transfer, after saying you'd accept anything above the world record, is neat business indeed.

    Soldado signing confirmed.
    Morata in talks to join Spurs.
    And I'm sure they are going to bring in another midfielder, striker, center back, too.
     
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  3. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    pains me to say it - but apart from the january window of this year - spurs have blown us out of the water the last several seasons in the transfer market and on the pitch (though we have a trophy to show for it and they don't).

    it's amazing what the end of the H and G era + the lack of understanding of the FSG + Comolli era has done to our club.

    And add to that - they are buying into AVBs philosphy - which he showed at Porto can work.

    Grrrrrrrrr.
     
  4. jeffcoop

    jeffcoop BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 11, 2006
    Central Indiana
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking forward to booing Fernando Torres in Indianapolis this evening.
     
  5. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are a testament to what savy, stable club management can do. They are also several years ahead of us under their current management structure. Trouble with Spurs is their ceiling is lower than ours, so while they are currently maximizing their resources, its going to be a pretty heavy lift for them to truly compete at the very top of the league. They have yet to finish have CL football for consecutive seasons.

    LFC on the other hand is still very much in the transition to maximizing our resources, and while we appear to have stabilized and seem to be moving in the right direction, we aren't there just yet. If we can get CL football, our revenues will be pretty close to par with pretty much everyone, except ManU, which therefore will allow us to truly compete at the top of the league.
     
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  6. liverbird

    liverbird BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 29, 2000
    Mars
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One of my favorite football moments was when Chelski playedDCU at FedEx and Lampard looked up to see my son flick him off after my son had yelled ******** You Fat Frank. Lampard looked completely dumbfounded. How did this Yank kid know all that? LB2 was about 13 at the time.
     
  7. never walk alone TPK

    Sep 27, 2004
    nairobi, kenya
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Kenya
    Your son knows the deal. You taught him well!
     
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  8. never walk alone TPK

    Sep 27, 2004
    nairobi, kenya
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Kenya
    Add an occasional insult into the mix. When there is a moment of silence.....Twat.....Fool....(Note that I used words that bigsoccer might not censor). Get creative.
     
  9. B.A.

    B.A. Member+

    Sep 12, 2007
    IL
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Insane.
     
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  10. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would like to say that Bale isn't worth that. I know I know - the player is only worth what someone will pay for him - but he's not.
     
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  11. poopoobigelow

    poopoobigelow Moderator
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    Sep 3, 2007
    VA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    if he's worth that, then ronaldo is worth 500m, messi is 1billion.

    someone said real might as well buy spurs, sell themselves bale for a pound, and then sell the club.
     
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  12. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    your hyperbole is a bit silly. if Bale is worth 100M, which he isn't, then Ronaldo is worth 150 and Messi 200, maybe.

    but the really bad thing about this is that it's an A-Rod moment. when Alex Rodriguez was signed by the Texas Rangers for 260M for 10 years, it put baseball salaries into a tailspin from which they have never recovered. the idea that Ryan Zimmerman, 3rd base for Washington Nats makes 14,000,000 a year is obscene. that's over 86K per game. (based on 162 games per season)

    it's not that Zimmerman is a bad player. it's that 86K per game is more than the average for a certified Nurse Midwife for a year in the USA.

    and Ryan Zimmerman uniform shirts aren't paying his salary. he's not in the top 25.
     
  13. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well it goes without saying that 40,000 people don't buy tickets and overpay for beer to watch a team of 9 midwives deliver babies 162 times per year. This is the age old question, when a sport or league starts maximizing its profits where should the money go? Personally I'd rather have the money go to the product on the field rather than the businessmen in charge... but I can think that and still agree with you that it's a slippery slope.
     
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  14. poopoobigelow

    poopoobigelow Moderator
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    Sep 3, 2007
    VA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    bayern v citeh on the espn2. citeh still a billion-pound counter-attacking team in europe.
     
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  15. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if tickets to sporting events were not a business expense, the cost of tickets would be reasonable and the salaries of athletes would be a small percentage of what they are now. i agree that the money should be spread more among the talent rather than the owners, but "the money" need not be the result of the average ticket price's being over 100 bucks.

    i had a single season seat for the LA Kings from '81 to '84, including prepaid parking, for 45 games, 41 home games and 4 pre-season games. the cost was about 1000 bucks, and i split the season with a guy i knew, so i was able to see 23 games for about 500 dollars, or 18 bucks plus 3 for parking. my seat was in Row L, on the blue line. now that seat as part of a season seat package is around $240, per game. at the time, the 500 bucks was 40% of a month's salary. now, the cost of a season seat for the year would be about 150% of my salary for a month.
     
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  16. liverbird

    liverbird BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 29, 2000
    Mars
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Citeh still can't defend
     
  17. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Muller is good. He is not pretty, but god damn is he effective.
     
  18. blanconi

    blanconi Member+

    Aug 25, 2008
    Total waste of a sound waves if you ask me.
     
  19. jeffcoop

    jeffcoop BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 11, 2006
    Central Indiana
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nah, it was worth it.
     
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  20. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
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    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yelling at Berbatov and Giggs when Man U lost at Arrowhead a few years ago had a similar feeling .. something intellectual about Bulgarian and Welsh cvnts was uttered.....
     
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  21. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
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    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I was with a very old friend of mine who has supported the Wizards since 96 .. I had known him since then really. At half time he turned to me and said "Mark, I always knew you hated Man U, but I never knew how much until now!" Proud moment!! :)
     
  22. jeffcoop

    jeffcoop BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 11, 2006
    Central Indiana
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. imasyko

    imasyko Member+

    May 16, 2002
    Spring City, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Torres now always has his knees braced and wrapped - sad to see players decline due to injuries. Makes those who can still play at a high level into their 30's - like our captain - all that more remarkable given the wear and tear on the body.
     
  24. KopRules

    KopRules Member+

    May 31, 2011
    Beautiful South KC
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Suarez's value measured by market exchange is tremendous, yet the actual use-value in Luis' (a worker specializing in dribbling a speckled ball and scoring goals) is minimal when recognized in consumptive gain. I.e. when Suarez stays, and LFC win the treble next year, you and I gain nothing, but LFC may move up the Forbes list.*

    In contrast, the exchange-value of a school teacher on the open market is minimal (40k/year), whereas a teacher's use-value measured by consumptive gain, is near unlimited and impossible to quantify.

    *Summer long euphoria, and a drunken haze were not considered consumptive gain by Marx. Clearly, He was a buzz kill and a Bitter fan.
     
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  25. liverbird

    liverbird BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 29, 2000
    Mars
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One year later

    @SportsCenter: THIS JUST IN: Tottenham Hotspur, Seattle Sounders finalizing transfer of #USMNT star Clint Dempsey. » http://t.co/ilXnHDwNBJ
     

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