Revolution not a Major Player in MLS

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by Minutemanii, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's a telling tidbit:
    ESPN will televise 20 Major League Soccer matches (one is still to be determined), all but one of which will air on Sundays:
    Sunday, March 3 (7:30 p.m.): Portland Timbers vs. New York Red Bulls, ESPN2
    Sunday, March 10 (10 p.m.): San Jose Earthquakes vs. New York Red Bulls, ESPN2
    Sunday, March 17 (1 p.m.): FC Dallas vs. Houston Dynamo, ESPN2
    Sunday, April 7 (5 p.m.): Chicago Fire vs. New York Red Bulls, ESPN2
    Sunday, April 21 (5 p.m.): D.C. United vs. Philadelphia Union, ESPN2
    Sunday, May 5 (11 p.m.): Los Angeles Galaxy vs. Houston Dynamo, ESPN2
    Sunday, May 19 (1:15 p.m.): New York Red Bulls vs. Los Angeles Galaxy, ESPN2
    Sunday, May 26 (11 p.m.): Los Angeles Galaxy vs. Seattle Sounders, ESPN2
    Saturday, June 15 (5 p.m.): Portland Timbers vs. FC Dallas, ESPN
    Sunday, June 23 (5 p.m.): Philadelphia Union vs. New York Red Bulls, ESPN
    Sunday, June 30 (2 p.m.): New York Red Bulls vs. Houston Dynamo, ESPN2
    Sunday, July 7 (3 p.m.): Chicago Fire vs. Sporting Kansas City, ESPN
    Sunday, Aug. 11 (8 p.m.): FC Dallas vs. Los Angeles Galaxy, ESPN2
    Sunday, Aug. 25 (10 p.m.): Seattle Sounders vs. Portland Timbers, ESPN2
    Sunday, Sept. 8 (11 p.m.): San Jose Earthquakes vs. Philadelphia Union, ESPN2
    Sunday, Sept. 29 (9 p.m.): Seattle Sounders vs. New York Red Bulls, ESPN
    Sunday, Oct. 13 (9 p.m.): Portland Timber vs. Seattle Sounders , ESPN
    Sunday, Oct. 20 (9 p.m.): Los Angeles Galaxy vs. San Jose Earthquakes , ESPN
    Sunday, Oct. 27 (9 p.m.): Seattle Sounders vs. Los Angeles Galaxy , ESPN

    Revolution not on this list. I guess these are the buzzing hot properties to MLS and it stands to reason.

    I wonder if this will get Bob Krafty's attention.
     
  2. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It hasn't really gotten his attention considering the lack of televised home games the last two years, why should this one?
     
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  3. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    But hey guys, we gotta stay positive! Always look on the bright side! You are all too negative! Kraft Cares! The FO wants soccer to succeed! They are trying REAL HARD to build a stadium! Complaining will get you no where, you gotta suck up to the organization so they will give you a ton of privileges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  4. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    Their schedule shows 2 games on NBS Sports seems to be the best they can get:
    3/9 away to Chicago
    6/2 home to LA
     
  5. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Revs don't have any stars that someone from outside New England would tune in to see, that's why they aren't on the list. Same for Colorado and Chivas. The 3 Canadian teams are missing too, but I think there is a contractual reason for that.
     
  6. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Canadian teams are missing because they don't get good ratings in the US, ya know....because they're in Canada ;)
     
  7. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    It has nothing to do with stars. Kansas City, Portland, and many other premier clubs don't have stars that draw huge TV ratings. However, they do offer a great atmosphere that translates well on television. The product just feels far more professional in those arenas than it does at Gillette Stadium. Colorado, Chivas, and us are at the bottom of the list because we have miserable atmosphere at home games, and we've struggled on the field as well.
     
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  8. NER_MCFC

    NER_MCFC Member

    May 23, 2001
    Cambridge, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I realize it's unacceptable to miss an opportunity to bitch and moan about the Revs, but the absence of Real Salt Lake from that list suggests some incompetence in Bristol as well.
     
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  9. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really. RSL is a tinny media market.

    Keep in mind folks, ESPN has access to all the ratings and facts and figures. We don't. They're going to choose the games that get them the highest ratings, and look the best on TV. It's as simple as that.
     
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  10. NER_MCFC

    NER_MCFC Member

    May 23, 2001
    Cambridge, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The KC market is approximately the same size as Salt Lake City, but they get a game; the Portland market isn't much bigger, and they get four games. Clearly market size isn't the only driver.

    Also, the implication that ESPN reliably makes good use of their data is absurd on its face. After New York, LA and Seattle, it's probably more or less random choices made by people who barely know or barely care.
    But as I said, I understand that complaints must be made at every opportunity; I just think there are better options.
     
  11. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Canadian teams also have their own national TV contract and are featured on the Canadian equivalent of ESPN all the time. Who knows, maybe the Revs will be shown on a national TV game in Canada. Those guys have to play against someone, eh?
     
  12. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So how do you explain three straight years with barely any home games on national TV?
     
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  13. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Losing team with no star power.

    This is really old news - people already used this to dump on the Revs a couple of months ago.
     
  14. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So three years ago, they already knew we'd be a 5-win team? Man, MLS is full of geniuses.

    You're giving a very simplistic reason. This team isn't that good, yes. The atmosphere at Gillette sucks, and whether or not you want to admit it, that plays a part.
     
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  15. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    What are the Portland Timbers? A losing team with no star power. Sorry, this isn't the reason the Revs aren't being shown on national television. It's a part of it, yes, but it's a much bigger than your simplistic explanation.
     
  16. JDEsq09

    JDEsq09 Member

    Apr 12, 2011
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Perhaps the Timbers SGs and the SKC SGs are better than the Revs SGs.
     
  17. huskydeac

    huskydeac Member+

    Mar 31, 2009
    Keep trollin, trollin, trollin, trollin...
     
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  18. JDEsq09

    JDEsq09 Member

    Apr 12, 2011
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Why are the Revs SGs ineffectiveness never part of the equation?
     
  19. huskydeac

    huskydeac Member+

    Mar 31, 2009
    You can't polish a turd.

    Edit: Yes, the Revs SGs could do a better job. No, that has nothing to do with why the atmosphere at Gillette absolutely blows compared to most other professional sporting events.
     
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  20. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ineffective at what?

    The problem is that only 12,000 people show up in a stadium that seats 70,000. It's as simple as that.
     
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  21. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    They have the freshness factor going for them. Team and stadium.

    Having a rabid crowd would get us more airtime, sure. There needs to be some compelling reason to bump other potential games: crowd, winning/quality team, new team, new stadium ...

    If we're not going to have "atmosphere", there has to be some other reason to pick us.
    Did we have no national games 3 years ago? I'm not sure it took a genius to know we weren't going to be great national entertainment in 2010/2011 - especially if Twellman wasn't ready to play.
    Okay. But, in our case, I think it's the lack of compensating factors.

    I don't think it's a lack of respect - I think we'll get more games when we get better.
     
  22. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we had 2 games 3 years ago. I think we've had just one or none 2 seasons ago (and IIRC it was on a spanish channel) ... 2 last season (one on a spanish channel) ...
     
  23. shanary

    shanary Member

    Aug 18, 2008
    BOSTON
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Are the SGs responsible for creating a professional, lively atmosphere in the stadium? Are they responsible for selling tickets?
     
  25. REV IT UP

    REV IT UP Member

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Jul 12, 2004
    San Francisco
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry but subjects like these just feed the fire for people who view us as just a bunch of NNNs.

    Lets look at the bigger picture here:
    * Of the 19 games only 5 of them do not feature LA, NY, or SEA
    * Of those 5 games, two of them are picked for the rivalry hype alone (FCDvsHOU and DCUvsPHI)
    * Take the subject line and change "Revolution" to any of:
    - Crew
    - RSL
    - Chivas
    - Rapids
    - Whitecaps
    - TFC
    - Impact

    So please, can we stop stop looking for new ways to hate on our own team. It's depressing how desperate the original post is trying to find something negative about the Revolution where there is clearly none.
     
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