News: Welcome Brek: Potter (Brek Shea at Stoke/ On loan to Birmingham)

That is an excellent question.

 

Bingo. The complaint I am seeing most this morning on twitter is why doesnt MLS at least say to FCD prior to the start of negotiations "here is the minimum price we are willing to accept" rather than swooping in after a deal has been struck? It kind of makes the whole operation look bush league.

 

That is odd, I thought that Shea was having some personality conflict with Dallas' coach. The whole single entity thing with MLS is tres bizzare. Does FCD need league approval to trade within MLS as well? I really do not know much about MLS structure but that seems messed up if they view him as a problem and cant get rid of him.

 

Brek is not worth 4 million right now, frankly I am surprised anyone would offer 2 at this point.

Can't really blame MLS though, Shea leaving for 2 million is not in their best interest.

She signed a new contract, if he wants to go to Europe why the hell did he sign a new deal, let alone a 3 year deal, or one that did not have a clause to let him leave if an offer came?

This whole situation is weird and I don't see how anyone but Shea is to blame for that.

 

Who makes the call on the MLS end of these transfers? Garber? The Board of Governors?

 

Yeah, that is weird. My hunch is MLS sometimes ends up negotiating with the team and doesn't want to set a minimum acceptable bid in advance. "Okay, we well, we think he's worth more than $3M, so if you want to sell him for $3M, we want you to, say, put some more money into your academy, which isn't far enough along."

Of course, it's also entirely possible that MLS and the clubs do this to make foreign teams more likely to make a better offer earlier or maybe to make them want to recoup sunk costs of the negotiation (by adding on $200k when MLS kicks up a fuss rather than have wasted two weeks negotiating a deal).

Or they're just territorial jackasses and they need to get on the same page. Who knows.

 

I get where you are coming from, but as far as can tell Shea has said nothing about all this. I think Stoke and Dallas were working on it from Pulis looking for a bargain. From all i have rad Dallas was all for it, that is why it is weird.

 

A little more background into the process...


Brian Sciaretta ‏@BrianSciaretta

1. I don't have a problem with MLS fighting for the highest possible price, but they should communicate value w/ MLS clubs before negotiations

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Alexi Lalas ‏@AlexiLalas
@BrianSciaretta Club is often first point of contact. Up to club to involve league office immediately. It's on them if they don't.

 

My point is more the fact that MLS is not to blame.

It is either FCD or Brek that is to blame. These two entities JUST signed a 3 year deal, why?

One, or both of them are knuckleheads. I would say it is Shea, since he could have just left on a free and gone wherever he wanted.

 

Does MLS offer anything lower than a 3-5 year deal? I know the initial deal is 5 years, either 3+2 or 2+3, but what about after the first contract is up? Basically can a player sign a 1 year deal in MLS? I'm just curious.

 

Maybe you know something I don't then . All I knew was that Stoke approached FCD. I have not read anything from Shea's camp that indicated he was seeking or asking for this.

I think it is like what Lalas tweet says, FCD should have called whomever with MLS and gotten them involved from the beginning. I agree with the poster that says it makes FCD and by extension MLS look busch league.

 

Fair enough, then it is option 2 and FCD are the knuckleheads. Again, I don't see an option where MLS is to blame for this, which was my initial point.

As for Shea, I assumed that he has wanted to go to Europe for some time as A. That is what any good young prospect should be aiming for and B. There has been a lot of rumored interest over the years, training at Arsenal, etc.

I thought Shea resigning with FCD was a strange move at the time, but assumed he would have a clause to leave if an offer came in, apparently that is not the case, as all reports are that it was a done deal and then MLS killed it.

Therefore it would appear, in my humble and inexpert opinion, that Shea is a knucklehead for signing that contract with FCD.

 

I do not have any faith Brek can improve much playing for a Schellas-coached team. If not Stoke, FCD should at least try to trade him to another MLS team with presumably better coaching.

 

This. There were more issues last year than just injuries, I hope he gets out of FCD (who won 9 games last year) and into a situation that is better for him.

 

He will soon be too old for the class of players who are "young therefore we can develop him".

 

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So, What up Shea?

 

MLS is telling Pulis he can't double dip. Frankly I was against the hardball on Cameron because I felt he was a good 'free first hit.' But doubling down on Brek, a marketable commodity is smart business.

The real question people need to ask each other is this: Can FCD make a freaken call to the devil and find a price range BEFORE they go this far down the rabbit hole? Monkeys.

 

Hopefully this turns a fire on and Shea bounces back from last season. This may be a blessing in disguise for him. He can recover from his injury and find his form again and it might be easier for him to do that in the MLS instead of the epl

 

I think MLS clubs use the league office to their advantage- classic good-cop, bad-cop. FCD gets to say to Brek- "Look, we were on your side in this" while the league office makes sure they don't get ripped off.

Whether the offer and valuation were fair is another question. I think 2mm pounds was a pretty good offer considering his injury. However, that would have been very low for the Brek of 2010, considering his potential. Unless FCD thinks Brek is broken and isn't going to get fixed, I wouldn't sell him now. He's at a low-point in value.

 

Mls turning around and telling Dallas they don't know the true value of their own player makes them look like that over protective dad we've all met, leaning on his baseball bat saying "you hurt her, I hurt you...."

 

I'm not sure I understand how the trial aspect of this was supposed to work, if that was indeed what was planned.

If MLS nixed the deal, that means that Shea was going to Stoke on trial to see if he was good enough to be purchased at a set price that Dallas and Stoke already agreed upon (since otherwise, MLS would have first waited to see what came out of the trial and how much Stoke would be willing to pay after getting an up close look at him). Is that how this normally works?

 

Shea did good in renewing for $300k right after a stellar year. He earns good money and doesn't need to be desperate when choosing his next contract so that makes it a good deal for him. The ones being weird are Stoke. They want a player with Brek's characteristics but are determined to get a "deal". Brek had a bad year but he is far from being damaged goods.

The thing here is that $5 or 6 million is a bargain for Brek if he is healthy. Yes that sounds like a lot of money since better players like Cameron and Dempsey went for less money. However, left footed players are rare. A left footed winger with the physical tools to go against elite right side players are very rare.

In my opinion, though, it's too early for Brek to be going abroad. He's young and he earns plenty of money already. He needs one more year to settle down and get his spot in the WC roster cemented.

 

Eathsleepreport.com mentioned FC Dallas initally agreed to sell Brek Shea to Stoke City for £2 million ($3,171,542.50 in today's dollars). Now, Major League Soccers wants £4 million ($6,343,085.00 in today's dollars).

We could have another "Clint Dempsey" transfer drama, part two.

If the deal collapses between Major League Soccer and Stoke City FC, what's the negative implementations on the relationship among Brek Shea, FC Dallas, and Major League Soccer?

Shea deal in doubt [January 22, 2013 @ 14:27 GMT (9:27AM EST)]
http://www.eatsleepsport.com/stoke-city/shea-deal-in-doubt-1535141.html#.UP7d72t5mSM

 

He was and is being mismanaged. 300k should be his managers fee. Long term deal with MLS is about as bad as it gets. Bad, poor, terrible management.

Of course this assumes he wants to be the next Dempsey not the next Justin Mapp. If he's on the Mapp trajectory, then yeah, groovy.