News: Welcome Brek: Potter (Brek Shea at Stoke/ On loan to Birmingham)

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  1. Couchtoast

    Couchtoast Member

    May 22, 2006
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reports now coming out saying Shea was seen today at FCD training:

    Daniel Robertson@DRobertsonFCD
    Brek Shea is at FC Dallas training. I see him with my own two eyes. I did not expect that.

    This is making for an especially silly "silly season".
     
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  2. blackstar22

    blackstar22 Member

    Jul 17, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ok now im really confused.

    Maybe he doesn't want to go to Stoke
     
  3. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure most BPL clubs have most Monday's off after a weekend match. Also if the trial is more "medical" than anything it should only take a day or two to be checked out by doctors. I'm sure he'll get some training time with the ball and players but it's not necessarily a red flag that he was seen at FCD's practice today.
     
  4. blackstar22

    blackstar22 Member

    Jul 17, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    But i would imagine he would already have flown over to at least get prepared for the trial
     
  5. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who's to say he isn't prepared. He could have left this afternoon for England. When you are flying on someone else's dime you go when they email you the flight itinerary. Like I said, it shouldn't necessarily be a red flag that he was seen at FCD today.
     
  6. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. The idea it was going to be a full week, literally, I think was an exaggeration. He'll be checked out for fitness, basic fitness would be my guess, and have the standard medical.

    It was the first day of training today for FCD. Brek probably wanted a bit of a warmup, and the reports are he was running and cutting "without a hitch", which would be good news.
     
  7. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Maybe it was this guy

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  8. atomicskiracer

    Jun 1, 2006
    Virginia
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ever tried to play soccer jet lagged? It sucks.
     
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  9. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While not cross-Atlantic I did several times in college. I can remember one time making a trip from the Southeast to the Northwest to the West in a 9 day span for 3 games. It sucked big time but I was extremely fit and had a very strict diet so it wasn't quite the same as normal people. I imagine professional athletes of the highest caliber can do so much better than a collegiate athlete. It's still not easy for them but it comes with the job especially an international player.
     
  10. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jet lag cannot be fixed by a good diet and well-trained muscles. It occurs because of a mismatch between the body clock and local photoperiod i.e., local time. When a jet drops a player hours away from his home time and he is asked to play at a body time that is out of synch with local time, almost every body function works relatively poorly. The worst body time is between 1 and 4 in the AM. If a game is played then, at a time when their body temperatures are at their lowest, players will suffer from slower reaction times and earlier game fatigue, among many other deficits. The deficits won't necessarily be huge. They will be measurable with the right tests, but not likely noticeable to a fan. Nevertheless, even a slight slowing of reaction time, for example, can have an enormous negative effect on a player's contribution to the success of the game. Four-six days are required to re-synchronize the body with the new time, although there are large individual differences and the rate also depends the direction of flight, east or west. There is no accepted method for eliminating, or speeding recovery from, jet lag.
     
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  11. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So, Daniel couldn't follow-up with some more 411 on what's going on?
     
  12. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Many of our Euro based Nats (Dolo, Boca, Dempsey, etc) have made trans atlantic flights multiple times over the years for a USMNT game, then fly back for a club game just 3 days later. FIFA switching to the Fri/Tues int'l date format recently helps the situation some. Although I'm not sure to group Michael Bradley in with those players because he's a cyborg.

    Plus, if Brek is flying over, it's not like he's immediately going to be playing an EPL game or maybe not even a hard training session.
     
  13. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004


    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=1308440&cc=5901
     
  14. HopperKowalski

    Aug 16, 2012
    I don't know why they think he's still worth so much when he just had a mediocre-to-bad season and has lost all but one of his European suitors
     
  15. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is 4M pounds a reasonable amount for Brek? Who knows, but bravo to MLS for digging in their heels on this one. 2M pounds was a real steal for Stoke, and MLS continues to show that it won't be robbed. If Stoke really want the guy, they've got to pay. While that might hinder this deal and others, it is also a signal to foreign leagues that MLS is not a place to get players at bargain basement prices.
     
  16. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess this isn't really a bad thing. Brek's stock will just continue to rise as he keeps playing well and getting more caps.
     
  17. Jgco

    Jgco Member

    Jul 14, 2011
    It depends on how you wish to look at things. When you consider Michu cost Swansea £2m, £4m for Shea looks ridiculous. When you consider Andy Carroll cost £35m, any deal looks a bargain.

    In what may or may not be a relevant comparison, Leicester have just signed Chris Wood (21 years old) from West Brom for £1m and he has 17 goals in 22 games in the Championship, a standard of football some want to compare MLS to.

    In my opinion, and it is only my opinion, if you subscribe to the notion that MLS standing firm on transfer fees is all well and good and ensures they get a price they deem fair rather than clubs, you then cannot lean on the notion of 'anti American bias' if Stoke now go out and sign a Kieran Richardson or similar in place of taking a punt on Shea.
     
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  18. m vann

    m vann Moderator
    Staff Member

    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get that MLS has rejected the deal but what are the chances that FCD pressures the league into selling?? Or does a rejection by MLS essentially kill the deal?? If it's the latter that's a damn shame. Obviously, by accepting the deal FCD are saying they are fine losing Shea while MLS doesn't feel that way. Is Shea really that "marketable" for MLS?? I don't see him as a face of the league.
     
  19. Scorpion26

    Scorpion26 Member

    May 1, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Well MLS does not want to lose it better young stars but if FCD agreed to selling MLS should not be allowed to stop the move. Overall any moves clubs make to sell players should not be stopped mainly because they agreed to the deal. That's got to be changed since MLS get most of the cash from the sell anyways. Let him go MLS...
     
  20. atomicskiracer

    Jun 1, 2006
    Virginia
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is doing things like this supposed to promote the MLS to budding talents?
     
  21. DCU1984

    DCU1984 Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From MLS's perspective why move a promising young talent with more than a year left on his contract after a poor injury plagued year unless the offer is huge. You can probably get a similar amount for him next year plus he stays in the league for another year. Also if he has an all-star worthy season you could potentially get even more.

    I am assuming he has more than one year left otherwise it wouldn't make much sense.
     
  22. Prime Time

    Prime Time Member

    May 1, 2004
    South Florida
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  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow...I can see MLS trying to get more money for Brek. I mean, adidas used him in commercials last year, for example. But DOUBLE??? That's just crazy.
     
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  24. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Can someone explain to me why MLS teams even negotiate? Shouldn't the league be negotiating from the start while consulting with the MLS team?
     

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