the quintessential 2013 "do we REALLY need one of these" superdraft thread!

I think there are 10 in that photo who played in the league...

Porter, Heaps, Olsen, Pareja, Kreis, Klopas, Vermes, Yallop, Kinnear, Warzycha

 

I was thinking (hoping) Wes Welker.

 

Never heard of any of these guys....

 

Delgato Sounds a lot like Brad Davis.

 

Start at 6 a.m., finish at 5 a.m.

 

You are absolutely correct, I'm afraid we'll second guess our decision to pass on him every time we play Portland.

 

We should be so lucky!

 

You hadn't heard of Beta or Morrow before we drafted them either. Patience grasshopper.

GO QUAKES!!

- Mark

 

not double dipping at defense leads me to believe that we got an ace in the hole at central D. We're eyeballing someone.....but we should be 4 deep come season opening

 

Dashon Goldson will be thinking (hoping) to meet him in the SuperBowl.

Still waiting to hear about a secret weapon Bernardez may be digging up from the home country.

 

Who are they?

 

supplimental draft is on tuesday, some surprising names that are still there that werent drafted the first two rounds. Happens every year though i guess:

Jose Gomez (Creighton CAM), Ashton Bennett (Costal Carolina F), Will Bates (Virginia F), Chris Thomas (Elon F), Andrew Ribiero (Creighton CD), Eric Schoenle (West Virginia CD), Yannick Smith (Old Dominion F), Ashanti Fairclough (South Florida CD/DM), Marcelo Castro (Sacred Heart CD/DM), Kevin Durr (Air Force DM).

We got 3 picks to work with, as our second round sup. pick was sent to RBNY for Medhi. Why pay attention? because Geoff Cameron was a 4th round supplimental round pick. though truth be told, someone makes the roster out of the supplimental rounds thats a great pick.

Lots of guys projected as first round players at the beginning of the season. As far as need goes, id still like Schoenle or Ribiero to fall to us as another central defense pick. Gomez is another Baca like player. And only reason i can explain Ashton Bennett's fall is his Canadian citizenship. and given the green cards we just got for two of our guys, Bennett is certainly more of an appealing pick for us than others. People must be worried about Will Bates's knee a-la Brian Ownby last season. Chris Thomas is the leading goalscorer in the nation but level of competition is questoin. and Fairclough and Castro are 6'2 and 6'3 specimens respectively that would give us some good size in the back as projects.

who knows maybe lowball a team with a decent player and a lousy contract situation. maybe send a comp pick to phili to Freddy Adu and offer to pay 60K-80K of his salary while phili take the rest of that bullet? no one else seems to be biting there. Also the Chivas USA thing ive been pounding home maybe we can take advantage of.

 

If it's that Honduran player Bernardez was promoting I'll be a happy man.

 

This Superdraft is totally rigged and means nothing in my opinion. You look at the draft and the players are all come from east coast teams or from schools who supposedly have bigger and better soccer programs but after following the college game closely for the last 4 years, none of the first rounders really impressed me all that much when I looked at their games. Erick Hurtado at Santa Clara didn't really show me much at all when I saw him play neither did Paulo DelPiccolo, Dylan Tucker-Ganges or Ryan Holingshead. The fact that Ryan went to UCLA just shows that there is bias in this thing and the same goes for Fernando Monge. Heck the only reason Del Piccolo went to Montreal is because his dad is from Italy , speaks Italian and has an Italian surname so he called up Joey Saputo to draft his son so he can play alongside other Italian players and get a gateway to Italy otherwise, who knew about him?

Then we have Opara who was supposed to be superstar and is gone. Then Sam Garza and David Bingham who haven't really featured as of yet and then you have Baca who was signed as a free agent and is a full fledged starter making $44k. Thankfully, those first 3 players were or are on GA contracts and didn't count against the cap or anything like that but I don't see how these first and second rounders are going to be real stars. If anything , we have to put out hopes into or what were lower round picks and what now will be called the supplemental draft.....

 

Of course there is a bias. I know people who know Del Piccolo personally and they all told me Montreal wanted him because of the Italian connection. Cal beat Santa Clara easily and Hurtado did nothing and Cal Poly beat supposed powerhouses in UCSB. If CAL hadn't traveled to the east coast, and elected to play Virgina where they lost 2-1 and then getting stuffed by Maryland only two days later, they will have made the NCAA tournament. Maryland did blow out Cal but it was a torrential downpour in the most humid conditions and their coach Sasho Cirovski even commented after the game how the game against Maryland only 2 days after losing to Virgina in those conditions were not fair. UCLA still gets a lot of recognition and CAL took them to two OT's at the end of the season and should have beat them only to be denied by the crossbar in the final minutes. Still, Monge and Hollinghead in my opinion were overrated when I saw them play CAL. I am not saying CAL did any good this year and Kevin Grimes screwed up against Stanford at their last game in Berkley even though they lead 1-0 at halftime but they've had problems all year with injuries to their defender Steve Birnbaum and Ted Jones and their attack was horrible in John Fitzpatrick and Kyle Lunt. However, they still don't get any recognition nor did they when they went to the final 8 , only 2 years ago losing to Akron and you have Soccer America's offices, just 2 blocks away from campus. Don't know how you can ignore a team playing two blocks away. Pretty sad in my opinion.

 

i guess the only positions im really looking at possibly addressing in the sup draft are maybe another central defense body and a left back.

I was really looking at left back depth next season but hey if we can knock it out early why not.

 

So what? Like I posted, Cal was playing on the road in a downpour on only two days rest coming off a hard played game at Virginia so that does not mean nothing. If you go by that, Cal should have beat UCLA at the end of the season only to be denied by the crossbar and just as Maryland tied UCLA , why can't you go by the same CAL @ UCLA 1-1 in 2 OT's? Don't' really see the difference there.

Actually from what I heard, Grimes tried to schedule games against UCSB & Cal Poly but I don't think he likes their coaches all that much. Both Tim Von Steeg and Paul Holocher also elected to play the great soccer schools in in Westmont , Valparaiso , Seattle, Army , Temple and Harvard as opposed to facing the Bears. Another story I heard was that Von Steeg and Holocher both paid 10 grand to be televised on FOX Soccer trying to give more light to their programs.

 

When I see a guy named Luke Spencer a player whom I never heard of coming from an unknown school in Xavier (?????????), being picked over Stanford's star Adam Jahn, you know something is wrong somewhere. Actually though, I really don't think college soccer is the real way to go because for starters, aside from the east coast bias , it also doesn't prepare players for MLS and IMHO, and its sort of a joke. The fact that all the easterners dictate to the league offices on which players should go or be invited to the combine , its only half of the ongoing problem. Playing 18 games in two months and not allowing teams to release more than 5 players to PDL/NPSL squads during the summer months, also does the players a complete injustice in their development, in my opinion.

 

Your sort of going off on an unhinged rant here. Im not ever sure what your saying really. That we should...?

But if it makes you feel better, the quakes hold their own combine in December. Its where they decided to draft Jake Hustedt and Dan Delgado, who was injured for the MLS combine. Im sure Adam Jahn and any Cal seniors that looked like they had any MLS future were invited as well. You seem to have strong opinions about players but havent been able to articulate at all why you think they would be able to make an impact in MLS.

As for how combine teams are selected, my understanding is that teams submit players they would like invited to MLS. We have in the past selected players like Beitashour and Hustedt who werent invited to the combine, or ones who didnt participate. I would hope this would assure you that the FO is doing a lot more due dilligence then just showing up and watching the combine and picking people based on that. Im not sure every team does do the proper due dilligence, but thats their problem, not ours.

But the reality is to get a really, really good view fo the talent pool in the US requires a scouting budget much, much larger then any MLS team can afford currently.

 

Not really a rant, just stating facts and truths which is there is in fact, an east vs west coast bias in the draft and its very evident. Anyway, the Cal and Stanford as well as other area seniors were invited to that combine and from what I saw, they did very well. A lot of them also were invited to and went to Seattle's combine. Hopefully, either Frank or Sigi will recognize their talents and pick one of them on in the Supplemental draft on Tuesday.