Why BeINsport is a failure - Continued

Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by cescfabregas, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. cescfabregas

    cescfabregas Member

    Oct 2, 2005
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    And adults with a low tolerance for ass-holery and quips that consistently fall flat wouldn't have to put up with the incessant yapping of inane bozos like phil and ray. Ah, there is another - the ignorant twit with a condescending attitude ignoring correction on live tv. The player's name is Ma-nu-cho (all in modern english alphabets) not ma-nu-ko. The jackanape kept spewing his nonsense while Bodo kept correcting him each time and he just wouldn't stop mispronouncing the player's name. This moron, ray, phil and andres are all imbeciles.
     
  2. Minduchio

    Minduchio Member+

    Jul 20, 2003
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    The whole " i admit, I'm in minority ,but majority are idiots" is OK with you?
     
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  3. cescfabregas

    cescfabregas Member

    Oct 2, 2005
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What are you talking about? You are completely misunderstanding my reference to majority.
     
  4. beInSchwartz

    beInSchwartz Member

    Aug 20, 2012
    Club:
    ABC Natal
    Bodo is painful to listen to. WHO IS MEANT TO BE THE PLAY BY PLAY?

    If you have trouble forming the words in English, maybe speak a little less.
     
  5. danielmak

    danielmak Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    off the purple line
    I love the Manucho comment. We hear the same thing with Mexes. Everyone in Europe uses one pronunciation and Phil, Ray, and FSC announcers seem to like some other Irish sounding name. These moves confirm for me what a class act Derek Rae is because he actually spends the time researching the teams, the games, and the players.
     
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  6. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mr. Clements never had a better example than this thread.
     
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  7. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Lol I'm a big bein defender but can't defend this its absolutely awful. I do turn it to Spanish with him usually.
     
  8. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. cescfabregas

    cescfabregas Member

    Oct 2, 2005
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Unfortunately those of us who do not have this luxury are left with the task of translating to english.
     
  10. Redbullsnation2012

    May 26, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    A little nit picky on the Manucho comment, no??
     
  11. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Head instructor for the ambulance driving school.
     
  12. TJNash

    TJNash Member

    May 22, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spot on. Who is producing this guy? The color commentator should not take over stretches of play by play. And talking it upon himself to announce the final score when the whistle blows? I would strangle him if he was my color analyst.

    Just shows you that BeIN just does not give a damn. If you live in the 305 area code and played in Europe, you have an announcing gig with them. Saves them lots of money on hotel rooms and per Diem.
     
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  13. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    I may qualify, depending on how high a level one needed to have played at.

    Hint : It wasn't Real Madrid.
     
  14. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watched the Juve vs Parma game yesterday and Ross Dyer and Ian Paul Joy were the announcers. FAR more tolerable than the comedy duo of Schoen and Hudson.

    I then caught part of the Milan vs Sampdoria game last night and they had Richard Whittle from the international feed. Ah how I miss those guys. Best part is they're in the stadium and live in Italy. The insight they bring is far better than anything beIN Sport can do, and they don't come across as being clowns.
     
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  15. TJNash

    TJNash Member

    May 22, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are clearly coherent, so that disqualifies you right off the bat.
     
  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Better than Ray Hudson? I doubt it. He may be over exuberant, but he doesn't say dumb stuff very often which is more than I can say about most commentators. Plus he's funny. "He doesn't blast it, he caresses it, he kisses it, like Burt Lancaster on that beach." haha... how can you not love him?
     
  17. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I feel like Ray has been toning it down lately, Idk if anyone else noticed.
     
  18. TJNash

    TJNash Member

    May 22, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty easy not to love Ray Hudson, to be honest with you. Can we at least agree he is a polarizing figure, and it might not be in BeIN's best interests to heavily use a commentator loathed by at least a portion of its audience?
     
  19. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I think 90 percent of the viewers love him, go to his youtube videos and look at the comments the only haters he has are on here.
     
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  20. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    YouTube? Really?

    How many of them are real football fans that listen to him every week.
     
  21. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Probably most of the viewers under 35.
     
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  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Being a soccer fan in this country means dealing with some crap. It's never going to be ideal. Calling beIN a failure though, to me, is implying that its worse than the other channels covering soccer here. And the beIN opponents here haven't been convincing that this is the case (sorry, but its true). To recap on the main complaints:

    1) "Ray and Phil". We had them last season as well, broadcasting as many games for GolTV that is humanly possible to do in a day. So we are no worse off, even if you hate them;
    2) "Not enough Serie A". beIN 1 and 2 have a full schedule of live soccer all weekend, every weekend. So the nitpickers are left complaining about their choice of matches, not their lack of live telecasts. Ho-hum;
    3) "Show 2nd and 3rd replays of some matches before showing other matches even once". No worse than what FOX does. General practice by FOX is to show the same Champions League matches in prime-time that they showed live at 2:30ET that day, instead of a new CL match that hasn't been shown at all. Even worse than that, FOX would usually show a match at 4:45 ET that another FOX channel showed LIVE at 2:45.
    4) "Show replays of La Liga instead of live Serie A Sunday morning match". Again, no different than what FOX does, showing CL replays instead of live football from South America which they have the exclusive rights for;
    5) "No English Championship matches during X-mas break when beIN had nothing else to show" . Well today there are 9 FA Cup matches being played and FOX is showing 0 of them. Only 1 CdR match today and beIN is showing it. 100% versus 0%. Yet beIN is the failure here? Rly?

    If I missed any of your complaints, please feel free to respond. ;)
     
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  23. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And how many of them have beIN? Listening to clips is one thing, for an entire game is another.
     
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  24. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Other than the odd Coppa Italia match on GolTV us Serie A fans didn't have to put up with them before.

    Choices? LOL, you mean lack there of. Last weekend there were THREE live Serie A matches on, and two of them were on at the same time. So all you could really watch were two live Serie A matches, with one taped. Compare that to the EIGHT live La Liga matches.

    Then there are the Coppa Italia games vs the 2nd leg Coppa del Rey games. Tape delay vs live, again.

    So forgive us while we lament the fact that our choices of live games are not as plentiful as yours.

    But it's different than what we were used to. I think that's your problem. You don't realize that Serie A fans used to have their pick of anywhere from 4-5 live games every weekend. We knew that the Saturday and Sunday night games would be shown LIVE. Not tape delayed, or even cut into the action during the second half.

    Fox is airing tomorrow's rematch between ManU and West Ham, live. That's one more game than beIN showed during the entire week, where there was a full slate of games of for two match days.

    And of course the Coppa Italia match is being shown at 8pm tonight. Tomorrow there are two CdR games, and of course both are live where as the Coppa Italia game is again on tape delay.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yes, choices. They show 3-4 live serie A matches per round, but it isn't always Milan, Juve and Inter like it was with FOX. So as a Juve fan, you're way worse off, but overall its still pretty good. And you still have RAI. For Spanish fans, there is no back-up. We have to rely 100% on beIN.

    And is it really the end of the world if a game is on 1-2 hour tape-delay? I could see 12 hours or the next day replays being complain-worthy, but not small delays.

    What full slate of games are you talking about? What competition? beIN showed Milan v Juve live and the other QF's on tape-delay. Plus all 4 CdR QF games. Surely that's better than showing nothing at all. FOX is showing 0/9 FA Cup games today, neither live or tape-delay. Tomorrow is better, although if I wanted to nit-pick about choice of games, I'd complain that Swansea v Arsenal >>>> Chelsea v Southampton , a good argument IMO, but I won't go there. At least they are showing one live game instead of another live game. So tomorrow FOX is doing a good job, but what's with their Tuesday lineup? Showing crap games from 2-3 months ago instead of 9 live intriguing games.
     
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