MLS SuperDraft 2013

Discussion in 'Toronto FC' started by adammac19, Dec 16, 2012.

  1. adammac19

    adammac19 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2006
    Sydney Mines
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I guess the next step in the process towards the new is season is the MLS draft. This year due to our poor performance ended up with the 1st overall pick and due to trade with Timbers ended up with the 3rd overall pick. Most (like my-self) believe one of these picks will be dealt away. Some of the mock drafts have the likes of defender Andrew Farrell and Walker Zimmerman, mid-fielder Mikey Lopez or Dillon Powers or forwards J.J Johnson or DeShore Brown

    Here is ives mock draft

    http://www.soccerbyives.net/2012/12/sbi-2013-mls-mock-draft-version-1-0.html

    Top drawer soccer mock

    http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/2013-mls-superdraft-mock-draft-v-20_aid28251
     
  2. baulderdash77

    baulderdash77 New Member

    Dec 16, 2012
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    There's a good reason to keep both picks. They can get good GA talent that doesn't cost them any budget space. This team needs an injection of talent and this is a good chance this year to get it.
     
  3. kaiteng

    kaiteng Member

    Aug 6, 2007
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    It sucks that GA class will get a lot smaller. Also, Eriq Zavaleta missing from the big board kinda sucks since he is probably the best player in this year's NCAA soccer tournament and he should fit TFC very well.
     
  4. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if Zavaleta comes out hes an Andrew Wenger clone, he will be your first pick. After the college season he had, he would be very wise to do that. Cant do much more to improve your stock than a national championship. The only thing to be concerned about i think is him trying overseas.

    If Zavaleta stays or goes overseas, i could conceivably see you guys double dipping at central defense with Farrell and Zimmermann even in spite of having O'Dea, Califf, and now Boss. Califf is on his last legs and Boss is extremely raw and doesnt have the best track record. For you guys fixing the defense should hold absolute first priority, and the best way to do that is take at least one defender off the board, possibly two.
     
  5. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    TFC already has Doneil Henry
     
  6. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    be that as it may, if that was my team with that defensive record, i would want at least one more body in at central defense.
     
  7. DavemTFC

    DavemTFC Member

    Apr 4, 2012
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I'd also like to have another depth player in defence. Either a CB or a LB which can move Emory back to his preferred CB position.
     
  8. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well Eriq Zavaleta just signed thats great news for you guys, another Andrew Wenger type who will likely be the best prospect in the draft, so you got the luxury of grabbing him then probably either Farrell or Zimmermann
     
  9. DavemTFC

    DavemTFC Member

    Apr 4, 2012
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    As it stands I'd take Zavaleta at #1 and Zimmerman at #3, but there's a good chance we'll use the first pick as trade bait.

    One thing to keep in mind though is that Payne doesn't seem too keen on GA players, which most of the top prospects are:

    http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2013/01/superdraft-decisions-loom
     
  10. ArteEtLabore

    ArteEtLabore Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I wasn't aware of his thoughts on GA players, but if that's true, I'm liking Payne even more. This means he's looking to draft a player that would be on the team for at least three years, rather than someone who is a cap benefit for 1-2 years. This is a huge change from any of the past GMs we've had - how many players on the team do we have that have been with the team that long? Frei? Morgan?
     
  11. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder what MLS club needs a CB out there, and what will they trade for a young starter? Columbus? Revs? Whitecaps?

    On the other hand, you would think Nelsen would want a new CB to train, if Henry and Agbossoumonde aren't good enough.
     
  12. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Finally someone who has some sense and can see past the shortsightedness of GA deals. There are many cases of GA players who turn out to be no better than the average squad player, but who think they're still worth that 100k+ that they were getting.
     
  13. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Interesting news from Diez and translated here. What they're saying is, TFC is trying nominate Alex Lopez for the league's draft eligible list, which would allow us to grab his MLS rights without making a discovery claim. The strategy likely won't work because he's already been capped internationally but it's worth a shot.
     
  14. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I don't fully understand all the intricacies of MLS, but I'm really confused here. How is it better to sign this guy using a first round pick than it is to use a discovery claim?
     
  15. ArteEtLabore

    ArteEtLabore Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Maybe they have other plans for the discovery claim
     
  16. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    well considering that each team gets six discovery claims per season, they had better have six freaking prime players lined up to make it worth burning a draft pick on a seventh. Even then, I`m not convinced we couldn`t trade something less valuable than a first round pick for one of another team`s discovery claims
     
  17. PattySajak

    PattySajak Member

    Dec 8, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I saw that video on the mls site and I kinda have a feeling now that were gonna take farrell and move him into the defensive mid slot, and take over for frings since he stated in a recent interview that he probably only has one year left him. Other then that I have no clue what there gonna do with that 3rd pick... trade it or maybe pick up Bekker?
     
  18. DavemTFC

    DavemTFC Member

    Apr 4, 2012
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I thought Farrell was a defender?...
     
  19. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes but he did start out as a d-mid and move into CB. So its theoretically possible for him to switch back and be really, really good at it. Frings needs a replacement.
     
  20. PattySajak

    PattySajak Member

    Dec 8, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    plus his athleticism, adding marking and tackling ability would at least make him a good anchor man ahead of O'Dea and Califf...if they needed to sub out frings to maintain his freshness. I guess thats assuming we get away from that flatline 4-4-2. That's the only reason why I could see them holding the first pick. Plus it looks like he can string some passes based on what I've seen on the combine highlights... Hard to make that statement though after a few combine videos tho haha
     
  21. DavemTFC

    DavemTFC Member

    Apr 4, 2012
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Chivas just announced they'll take Alvarez with the second pick. Would be hilarious if we trolled them a-la-Brian-Ching-in-Montreal-last-year (take this post with a large grain of salt)
     
  22. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Then I think they'd take Mikey Lopez, and we'd be stuck with a player that we never wanted... (Sorry, I'm out of salt:p)
     
  23. PattySajak

    PattySajak Member

    Dec 8, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    http://www.soccerbyives.net/2013/01...ing-trades-are-set-to-shake-up-mls-draft.html

    at first glimpse... sorta sounds like Toronto is simple trading there #1 spot for the 5th overall pick and 100k allocation... but the way I see it Toronto only really needs (if any) to draft one more defender and 2 of the top 3 are defenders.

    Its pretty smart thinking because if Toronto were planning on going for bekker in the draft, they won't look foolish drafting him at #3 and just made 100k in doing so. Plus It seems Colorado wants Zimmerman bad, so in the end we would still up with Farrell which is a solid pick anywhere in the back or anchor position.
     
  24. DavemTFC

    DavemTFC Member

    Apr 4, 2012
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    If this is true, I have some questions.
    Zimmerman, based on what I've heard, sounds like he has an incredibly high ceiling and the way he's talked about I feel like he could blossom into the next Omar Gonzalez. Ive never seen him play, so this is just my gut speaking really, but based on what I've heard he sounds like a real talent. Farrell, meanwhile apparently struggled defensively at the combine and his ceiling isn't as high... Also, Bekker is a good player for sure, but picking him at #5 seems like a bit of a reach. Also Vancouver only drops down one spot in the first round order, while getting an extra second-round pick as well.
    On the plus side, we're getting allocation, we're less likely to pick players who play at a position we're already loaded in, and Farrell is trade-able. So I dunno, we'll just have to wait and see
     
  25. ArteEtLabore

    ArteEtLabore Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada

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