2012-2013 All Houston Sports Talk except Dynamo

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by The_Ponce, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In that case, I want one.
     
  2. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That shirt is bosS!



    Yeah, and AEG rocks! Their people get stadium deals done all by themselves!!! Well, 'cept in SJ or Houston.
     
  3. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...so you'll prefer Les Alexander who is the reason why we may lose an historic Houston team? The main argument is Les v. AEG. I would side with AEG every ********ing day of the week.
     
  4. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    May lose a historic Houston team...I've got a Gordie Howe Aeros hockey stick given to my pops by him from a game in the 70's, love me some Houston hockey and yet this may come as a surprise to you young lads but once a man has kids, worrying over losing a local pro team, D-1 or not, doesn't really turn up on our radar. There are way more important loses in life.
    Also, these men have gotten rich by means unknown or little understood perhaps, they will do what they like when they like with their teams. Such is sports in North America Ponce.
     
  5. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course it isn't as important, but the truth is it is a loss that could be avoided. Not to mention, it is a loss that really may have no gain for any of the two parties. North America is much like our fair city, we look towards the future in spite of our past. Houston is willing to tear down historic landmarks in order to building shopping centers. That's the way our sports landscape is as well, but that doesn't mean that some of those landmarks aren't lost in vain. Some of those shopping centers lay barren after years, much like most of those Toyota Center dates will be left vacant. Some losses shouldn't be losses.
     
  6. JC507

    JC507 Member+

    Jan 21, 2007
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember watching games in butler stadium and people with kids didn't care when that stopped. Sucks.
     
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  7. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't completely understand the Les hate. I'd take Les over the group that only remembers that they have a team in Houston when they make it to a cup final. Things would certainly be different, but change may be coming regardless.
     
  8. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They cared but that just didn't last long, sabes?

    Les won't sign that lease agreement. I'll always hate him if the Aeros move.
     
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  9. Caddman

    Caddman Member+

    Aug 18, 1999
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's a little more complicated than Les wants the Aeros to leave town. There's bad blood between Les and the Aeros\Chuck Watson that goes back to mid 90's. What with the both of them getting in each others way for arena referendums, leases, NHL expansion, both trying to buy the hockey Oilers, etc. I'm not sure who to blame, but if there is ever NHL in Houston, it'll likely be Les' team. I doubt they'll be called the Aeros though:)
     
  10. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know of the bad blood, but I'll still blame him. I'm an asshole that way.
     
  11. Westside Cosmo

    Westside Cosmo Member+

    Oct 4, 2007
    H-Town
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Chuck Watson owns any part of the Aeros anymore. That war ended years ago when the Toyota Center got built. When Les was interested in the buying the Edmonton Oilers it was all to get an NHL team to leverage a new arena deal, which he got thanks to the worst mayor in American history (Lee Brown) giving it to him. The lease deal effectively gives him control over any NHL team's profitibility in Houston.

    Look, I can say this with some certainty: Watson bought into the Aeros then bought the Summit Arena Operating Company (basically the lease) to try and squeeze Les into selling him the Rockets. Watson I think played basketball at OK State and had front row seats for years and in the late 1990s was absolutely loaded with Dynegy stock (and other monies). A bit later on Dynegy effectively collapsed and his pockets were not as full of money and Les got the Toyota Center deal thru. Les was not as wealthy when he bought the team (it was highly leveraged and I was told that the debt service was huge and he needed those playoff runs badly; I also heard he was so cheap and hands-on that every check that the Rockets needed to cut for the first year had to be overnighted to him in Florida to personally approve and sign) and the thought was he may sell quickly.

    Les cares about money, the Rockets, and little else. As owner of the Aeros/Dynamo/Comets/whatever, he's going to be about profit over wins by a large margin.
     
  12. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah,Butler Stadium. Glenn sure is proud of what was to what has become. All cuz some dude with more money than Les decided to move the best team in our league.
     
  13. JC507

    JC507 Member+

    Jan 21, 2007
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This may come as a surprise to you, but that dude had kids and didn't care about moving the team.
     
  14. Beavis Stiffler

    Beavis Stiffler Member+

    May 14, 2011
    Naranja With Attitude. Straight Outta Houston.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    I remember Les Alexander once owned an Arena Football franchise.
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    1998 American Conference Central Division Champions
     
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  15. Beavis Stiffler

    Beavis Stiffler Member+

    May 14, 2011
    Naranja With Attitude. Straight Outta Houston.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    Today, it's Rice vs. Air Force in the Armed Forces Bowl. It will be on ESPN and kickoff at 10:45 am

    Good luck to Rice and Go Owls!!!!
     
  16. anderson

    anderson Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ken Hatfield is apparently up there. He coached both teams, so it's nice that he gets to see this game.

    I'm keeping an eye on it at work. It would've been nice to go, but I've already been out of town a lot lately, and my capitalist oppressors tell me that we allegedly have some sort of deadline.
     
  17. dreamingawake09

    Jun 12, 2010
    Eh, more of the reason to not have kids personally speaking. However, I totally understand where you are coming from. Yet, there are those are emotionally tied to said team. They are that passionate about it and have that much of a love to a team, and it's history and impact on their city. I mean is it wrong that AFC Wimbledon fans should be frustrated at what happened to the old FC Wimbledon team being relocated to Milton Keynes? Yes there are more important things in the world than a sporting team, however, those priorities vary from person to person, supporter to supporter. Then again, I personally dislike NA sports and how it operates but yeah. Not disagreeing with you or anything but there is that other side.
     
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  18. metroag

    metroag Da Bomb Diggity

    Mar 2, 2006
    La hacienda
    Hatfield=The Bhudda of the Bone

    I am glad I am not the only person working today.
     
  19. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Texas Tech defeated Minnesota on a last second field goal after both teams went back n forth in a fiercely contested Mieneke Bowl at our Reliant Stadium last night!

    GUNS UP!
     
  20. Beavis Stiffler

    Beavis Stiffler Member+

    May 14, 2011
    Naranja With Attitude. Straight Outta Houston.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    UT and TCU are playing their respective bowl games tonight and try to make it 6-0 for the original Southwest Conference (SWC). All the SWC teams except the UH Coogs are in a bowl game.
     
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  21. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rice sure took care of business! They outscored AFA 26-zip in the second half to roll the Falcons.

    Texas Longhorns are in a scrap right now with Oregon St.

    The best thing about following college teams is that unlike pro teams in North America, these college teams never change their colors or change their fight songs. And there is always gonna be a next season
    ....unless you are SMU in the mid 80's that is, ahem. That really was the catalyst for the Arkansas bounce to the SEC in '90 iirc and where each of our old SWC schools ended up in various conferences and now A&M to the SEC like Arkansas these years on.
     
  22. Levy2k6

    Levy2k6 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 19, 2010
    Section 129, Row A
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Defense is going to need to win it for us
     
  23. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Defense is the one costing us the game with those penalty flags.
     
  24. Levy2k6

    Levy2k6 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 19, 2010
    Section 129, Row A
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Offense is non existsnt
     
  25. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have an offense? lol
     
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