2013 Off-Season Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Via_Chicago, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. Socarchist

    Socarchist Member+

    Feb 21, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I'm hoping the CCL games, rather than meaningless friendlies, will be our Bonus Games A & B.
     
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  2. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I for one welcome our soon to be Honduran overlords
     
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  3. sportsfan-quakes

    Mar 19, 2005
    San Jose
    Great insight - thanks! That's good that he's used to playing behind two forwards, since that part of the Quakes formation seems pretty well set while Wondo is still around (since Wondo plays best as a second forward next to someone else). That would be very exciting if the Quakes could get him.
     
  4. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    I'm liking what i'm hearing, sounds like what we need desperately.
     
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  5. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We don't need anyone desperately.
     
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  6. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    I respectfully disagree. :)
     
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  7. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
  8. Steve0013

    Steve0013 Member

    Jul 20, 2012
    London, UK
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Lopez is supposed to be really good but then again if he was that good he would probably be in MLS already if not Argentina, Brazil or Mexico.
     
  9. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    He was close to joining Norwegian side, Rosenborg, but they didn't offer enough money.. I don't think they had enough in the first place.. and Wigan are already monitoring his progress, just waiting for him meet requirements like amount of caps, visa, etc.
     
  10. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If Wondo was that good, Houston wouldn't have traded him for Cam Weaver. :)
     
  11. willykirk

    willykirk Member

    Jan 6, 2004
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This still cracks me up. I wonder though if Wondo played a part by letting on a trade wouldnt bother him, or even outright requesting a return to San Jose, knowing he was still 3 or 4 deep on their depth chart.
     
  12. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not necessarily. He's young, and the Honduran league does not get the sort of media attention that MLS gets, much less, Mexico. It could be that OUR Quakes are the first team outside Honduras to get serious about him.

    GO QUAKES!!!

    - Mark
     
  13. nihon2000

    nihon2000 Member

    Oct 14, 2008
    San Jose
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope. Please explain Dr.
     
  15. nihon2000

    nihon2000 Member

    Oct 14, 2008
    San Jose
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The trick is to keep your knees "up" as you fall down on
    your hands & chest; this will save your meniscus.

    To save your hips .. Keep your hips "back" &
    to twist at the waist to avoid the direct hit.
     
  16. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or don't play on the uneven, poorly maintained, overused fields offered up to the South Bay Adult Rec leagues. Both my meniscus tears happened without falling down, just turning with my foot placed wrong.
     
  17. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Interestingly, I have it from "a source" that Bruce Morgan (boo-boo man) has been fired by the Quakes. I wonder if there's a connection with the spate of post-season surgeries?
     
  18. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. I thought they were pretty high on him. And the spate of injuries I think is more related to our guys taking a lot of hits as the season wore on with next to no protection from the refs. So, if he's been sacked, I think there is some other factor at work. Besides, we've had tons of injuries before and he didn't get fired.

    Speaking of injuries, it seems that Beta played most of the second half of the season with a sports hernia. Which means that we either didn't have a backup for him, or would rather play an injured Beta than Jed?

    We need more defenders. We should have backups for every position, and backups that we are confident enough to play.

    Oh, and we need to work on fitness again this coming season. That was a huge component of our great season and no doubt a big factor in our late scoring record. We just flat wore other teams out, often.

    GO QUAKES!!!!

    - Mark
     
  19. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It seems like we had a lot more injuries over the last few seasons then the average team. So if the team is looking to improve on that count, that move would make sense.
     
  20. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It's difficult to tell from the outside if the number of injuries has to do with the way the team plays or bad luck or what. I'd say that the Quakes stayed remarkably fit until the end of the season. But either way, I wouldn't expect a significant increase or decrease in injuries due to this particular change in personnel.
     
  21. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with this. I think we picked up a lot of injuries from getting fouled and the refs not doing anything to stop it. Which just encouraged other teams to foul us more. So I don't see this having a really positive impact that way.

    Now, if they fired him for something else, or because of some fundamental disagreement about player treatment and fitness, then that's a completely different matter.

    GO QUAKES!!

    - Mark
     
  22. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The issue may be more focus on treatment than prevention. Fitness should not be the doc's responsibility, but since I've seen a lot fewer complaints here about fitness, that doesn't seem to be an issue as much as it used to be.
     
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  23. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beat me to it... Firing the Doc because of too many injuries is like getting rid of cops because there is too much crime.
     
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  24. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    That's a great point. If we take the Beitashour example, the guy was playing with a pretty serious injury for a significant number of games. I don't know the particulars about players being cleared to participate in matches and training, but it could be that Morgan cleared Beitashour to play when maybe he shouldn't have, or allowed Beitashour to convince him that he could play when he shouldn't have played.

    For a front office, injury prevention and treatment are a key component of making sure the money spent on players was wisely invested and it makes sense that if you aren't comfortable with your treatment doctor's assessments that you'd look for a guy you can be confident in. Of course, without being on the inside, it all turns into wild speculation pretty quickly.
     
  25. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last off season, I exchanged e-mail with El Presidente Kaval about team fitness (among other issues). He assured me that fitness would be a focus of pre-season training, and it was. We had far fewer injuries in '12 than in '11 when we did not work hard enough on fitness. I'm going to bet that fitness is a feature of this pre-season as well. (And this exchange is one of many reason that I think Frank at least started last season on a short leash.)

    But I'm not sure what this has to do with Morgan? I think it must be something other than the injuries. Or perhaps as hc897 says, Bruce cleared someone to play who shouldn't have been so cleared? This might have come to light during the off-season surgeries, so that might be what drove this decision, or it might be some philosophical difference, or something complete different.

    GO QUAKES!!!

    - Mark
     

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