Star Trek Into Darkness

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  1. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    Someone sent my wife a story about it yesterday. It's scheduled release date is our anniversary. Thank you, Star Trek franchise, for never has it been this easy for me to plan our night.
     
  2. SoccerPrime

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    So its about Gary Mitchell, interesting...
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  3. Alberto

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    Really? Where no man has gone before? I love that episode.
     
  4. spejic

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    It's going to be awful.

    And it starts with that title. "Star Trek" is not a verb.
     
  5. SoccerPrime

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  6. spejic

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    From the official synopsis:

    How can you "detonate a fleet"? Or "everything it stands for"? Is it really so hard to hire someone that knows English?

    And why is "our world" in a state of crisis? Starfleet is a multi-system organization (or it was until the first movie destroyed an important part of it). This parochial thinking shows they don't get the show at all.
     
  7. Alberto

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    When I saw that episode as a little kid, the concept frightened me. I remember watching it on NBC and wondering how Captain Kirk could defeat Gary Mitchell.
     
  8. Dr. Wankler

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    That bugs me, too. But then again, my post in this thread has "it's" when it should be "its," so I have to let them slide.

    But seriously, are they outsourcing copyediting and hiring people who don't have a full grasp of idiomatic English?
     
  9. SirManchester

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    Sounds like another 'Joker' plot to me.
     
  10. JohnR

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    Wow that's a terrible synopsis. Banal and semi-literate. It wouldn't be a good effort from a 10th grader.
     
  11. Goodsport

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  12. SoccerPrime

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    They only invited captains that JJ Abrams considered irrelevant.
     
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  13. JohnR

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    Watched the trailer, it wasn't interesting -- CGI crash bang burn. Yawn. But a dull trailer doesn't necessarily mean a dull movie, it might just mean that the marketers were targeting young when putting together the trailer.
     
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  14. Matrim55

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    ******** JJ Abrams.
     
  15. Goodsport

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    Not bad for a fan-made trailer. ;)


    Here's the official teaser:





    -G
     
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  16. profiled

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    Woops posted the wrong one, thanks for the right link.
     
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  17. Goodsport

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    I'm glad that I could help. :)


    -G
     
  18. Belgian guy

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    It's hard to believe just how much Abrams has Abramsed the franchise.

    Which once again begs the question: couldn't they have hired someone who has a genuine appreciation for the series, instead of his referential and overrated hack?
     
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  19. SoccerPrime

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    Theres a real sense that the old regime screwed up the franchise. And Abrams is sexy.
     
  20. Belgian guy

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    Explain.
     
  21. bungadiri

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    I'm curious. How does the Abram version of Star Trek differ from the series?

    Is it the unmaking of the classic timeline (and yeah, I can see why time travel can be an automatic deal breaker for some folks)?

    More reliance on special effects (and is that actually true)?

    Are the characters portrayed differently (and if so, why isn't youth a reasonable explanation)?

    What is it that makes the Abrams version so problematic?
     
  22. Dante

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    Voyager and seasons 1-3 of Enterprise
     
  23. Dante

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    It's cool to hate on Abrams.
     
  24. spejic

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    It's because the feel of the original shows is lost. The Star Treks were a product of the Enlightenment. They were lead by scholar-athletes and crewed by the talented who all worked to get where they are. They perform their mission through thinking and reflection and understanding and empathy.

    The JJ Kirk lucks his way into everything. He's in his position with his crew and his ship only because he was destined to do so from the beginning and the universe bends itself to make it so.

    Basically, the current Star Trek is Star Wars. Even in the details it's Star Wars. There are animals far too active and large for their environment to support. There are walkways above bottomless pits with no railings. They even had a stupid "always a bigger fish" moment.

    That's the turd frosting on the crap cake. He's not only made a new Trek, he obliterated the old Trek in the process.
     
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