46 yr old Russian male seeking coach for short term fun - OTT [R]

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  1. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    we would just play them out of position in 4-4-2 anyway. although aside from the usual suspects, if Piszczek was a LB sure. not too convinced by Schmelzer (i think) or whoever is there. although another RB wouldn't be that bad.

    NO. no more of these no name clubs buying success. bottom of the group and fuсk off.

    as for Benítez i see why they did it.
    • better cup manager than league manager
    • attempt to get Torres to work
    • does have a good CV liverpool aside (which taints a lot of people's views)
    • no prior incidents with Clattenburg
    his previous comments about chelsea in the past won't endear him to the fans but Abramovich cares not.
    as for why he did it makes sense too
    • chance to win trophies which he was holding out for
    • if he wins he is some genius to english media for succeding in those conditions
    • if he loses then €€€
    still amazed that Hughes outlasted Di Matteo though. shіt
     
  2. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/...s-unsurprised-by-sacking-of-Roberto-Di-Matteo

    and of course

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/...ams-accused-Luis-Suarez-of-being-serial-diver

    convenient right before their meeting this weekend, but the 'witch hunt' continues i guess.
     
  3. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    oh also city on course for lowest pts total ever for English club in UCL
     
  4. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Tbh he doesn't though really, his time at Inter was even worse than his time at Liverpool, at least Liverpool were rubbish, Inter had a Squad that had gone on to win everything and was still dominant in Italy, FSW managed to turn them to crap and while the squad was aging a team doesn't go from Winning the Treble to being shit over one summer when only the manager has changed
     
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  5. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    That was last season for a brief period, this season Kagawa dallies on ball because he cant find any players close enough to him to pass to and create space for himself, he wont create it himself, and in the process over powered and out fought. He will build up/bulk up and start loosing lesser balls that way but he would be still standing there what the hell I am supposed to do with it as every time I get the ball everyone just runs away from me, I cant play over the top ball wide and I wont.
     
  6. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    that squad was aging and it was quite clear to everyone it was on the decline. why do you think Mourinho left right after? Madrid yes but he very carefully chooses his destinations where he has a good squad to build from and financial backing.

    Benítez was there for 6 months... it doesn't erase his good work before liverpool. unless you simply don't know what is on his CV. i am not saying he is great but he is good and certainly better than Di Matteo
     
  7. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    I clearly mentioned it was aging, but one summer doesn't cause an entire squad to deteriorate that much, Benitez did well at Valencia there's no denying that, but he hasn't really done much since that. He's been living off that CL success ever since.
     
  8. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    He did okay with Liverpool, built an excellent midfield and a decent defense, Agger Skrtel were his buys right? And bought some good young potentials as well Sterling, Suso, Shelvey were his signings as well right? He had an exceptional striker but he was too rigid to make a title challenge, they were a pain in Europe for any team and that is a compliment.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Looking at how RDM and Chelsea have sought to brief the media in the last 24 hours - I can actually kind of understand RA's approach. He might as well have one last attempt at 'fixing Torres'. Its cheaper than any other option.

    Big picture though - you have to wonder if he isn't just repeating the same mistakes he made with J0se & Shevchenko - having bought a duff striker for huge money - he now proceeds to throw good money after bad.
     
  10. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Everyone is a bit the same in that sense in Football, they make a big signing and seldom are willing to write the player off and move on, Chelsea are just the worst at it.

    We did the same a bit with Berbatov, forced playing him even though he wasn't working because he'd cost so much. The only player I can think of that got moved on when it didn't work was Veron and that was probably only because Chelsea payed a pretty high sum to take him off our hands.


    You're right though Chelsea are the worst at it and it's double bad because it's the owner picking the daft player not even the manager making a bad signing
     
  11. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
  12. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yes. What's your point? If it's that we can't criticise our players then you might want to check your posting history.

    Who cares what he's said? It's irrelevent to his performance. I disagree that he's looked good, 5/10 for me so far.

    I'm not berating him as he's not here to listen. The purpose was to say that unlike others who were excited by the prospect, I'd be cautious over signing further Dortmund players until the one we have works out or not. I'm not saying he won't as it's massively too early to give an overall judgement of him as a United player, just that I'm not going fap over the potential of signing others yet until we see what Kagawa brings or doesn't bring to the table once we've had the chance to fully assess him in a red shirt.

    So far I haven't been too impressed. You have, and that's fine, and I'd like to once again reiterate that it's very early days for him. He's by no means a bad player or a flop in my book if that's what you thought I was saying.

    This reminds me of the amount of times I've read people on Big Soccer posting about how British people think. Sometimes the posts are spot on, more often I don't recognise the viewpoints or characteristics mentioned, at least when it comes to my circle of friends, family and aquaintances. I don't know anybody who thought Ronaldo wasn't at least a good player long before then.
     
  13. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    What many people are missing is that we weren't winning the league this season anyway. Seeing if we can get anything out of Torres while getting the squad comfortable with playing a new style isn't much of a failure. I think Benitez's appointment is stupid, but look for us to bring in a young striker this summer as well as a transition CM (or give Chalobah a shot).
     
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  14. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    SSN anchor just before going to ads: "Rafa Benitez is back in the Premier League - he is the new Chelsea boss. We'll be back to Stamford Bridge next... and that is a fact!"

    :D
     
  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agree.
     
  16. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    • Inter aside also... which means the last 8 years aside.
    He did well at Valencia, but that was also 'the club that Ranieri built' - iirc, Benitez's meaningful purchases were limited to Curro Torres and Mista. His transfer history at Liverpool speaks for itself... and not in a particularly good way, while at Inter he was entirely unable to do anything to help offset the ageing squad. He is amongst the most overrated managers of his generation - very good with tactics and getting the fans on his side, kind of useless at most everything else.
     
  17. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    All charges dropped against Clattenberg... the plot thickens.

    Ramires & Mikel need to get -hammered- for this, imo.
     
  18. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Yup. If there's no proof then it just smears his name.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Funny how they just happen to bury the announcement on the day chelsea appoint a new coach

    EDIT: At the same time as Chelsea's presser :ROFLMAO:

    Could you get a more shit bunch of people.
     
  20. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  21. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
  22. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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  23. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    A Chelsea fan in the background just shouted EXACTLY that on SSN when they were doing an 'on the scene' report.
     
  24. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Based on his recruitment strategy, that was probably Roman Abramovich.
     
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  25. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    You mean after the FA said that the Ramires allegations were clearly in good faith? C'mon billy. The whole thing was utterly stupid of us to do, but you're just bitter you didn't get more of Clattenburg's refereeing help while he was suspended.
     
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