Revs Re-Sign Andy Dorman

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by Crooked, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Andy Dorman has re-signed with the Revs and will join the team for pre-season training in January, pending his ITC.

    Andy will join an already crowded midfield, with Scott Caldwell also expected to join the team as a homegrown player. What doest his mean for Feilhaber? I assume his days are numbered as Dorman, Rowe, Toja, and Caldwell all play his position.

    I personally like the signing as long as Andy is coming at the right price, which we won't know for a while. He should bring some leadership and professionalism to the team, and hopefully he can rediscover his form from his best days with Revs in the mid 2000s.
     
  2. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    Like Andy when he was here, and thought he was playing great (until it was clear he was definitely playing out contract and Nicol started playing others)....but why don't I have the best feeling about this?

    Hope I am wrong
     
  3. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, if you remember, his play really started to drop when he was (surprisingly) not included by Nicol in the All-Star game that year.
     
  4. CottageRev

    CottageRev Member+

    Jun 13, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I'm very happy and skeptical at the same time. Dorman was a great player when he was here (and yay, BU representation again on the Revs!) but he's 30 now, struggled badly in the Championship and wasn't a standout in League Two.

    I'm hoping like Crooked said, he can fill the "veteran leadership" void left by Joseph and (possibly) Reis, and maybe take on more of a holding/deep-lying role in the midfield since Simms is a weak passer. At worst, he should be able to have the spot Pat Noonan has on the Galaxy, starter for USOC/Reserve games and spot player when injuries hit.
     
  5. Joeyfitzclick

    Joeyfitzclick Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Newport RI
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Really like Andy and delighted he is back for the Revs.

    My guess is his cap hit will $120K + or -
     
  6. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IIRC Anday has family in the area (brother?)
    Word is he was one of the trialists this Fall
    I'm glad he's back
     
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  7. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I honestly haven't seen him play in years, so I'm totally indifferent. It's impossible for me to know how he will pan out.
     
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  8. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can only assume that the Revs FO has done all their due diligence and made the necessary trips out to see him in first team action. Thereby gaining a much better handle on his play from anything we may have heard about.
    But, like you, I'm in agreement. It's impossible to know! So I out all my faith in that the FO is being paid to do a job that I certainly could not do..otherwise I'd be working for Krafty! =)
     
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  9. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His brother also went to BU, but I seem to recall him going off to Finland to play professionally after graduation. Not sure if he's still there or not.
     
  10. REV IT UP

    REV IT UP Member

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Jul 12, 2004
    San Francisco
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like this re-signing. I really do. Andy was a solid player for us, he's gained some higher lever experience, and can bring that back here. He's a player the fans know, and creates a little bit of the illusion that the Revs want to build a tradition.
     
  11. ktsd

    ktsd Member

    Jul 20, 1999
    Bethel, CT, USA
    Though it could as likely enter peoples' perception that they are desperate, cheap, and lack resourcefulness.

    I'm excited about Andy coming back, and would love to be surprised by any poise, maturity and refined skill he could bring. Hope it works out that way. At the very least, I'm now more interested in watching the team tomorrow than I was yesterday.

    Kevin D.
     
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  12. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    We have a great tradition:
    Head Coach: Former player
    Strength and Conditioning Coach: Former player
    General Manager: Former player
    Color Commentator: Former player
    Youth Academy Coach: Former player

    And now we can add to the list:
    Current Player: Former player

    I'm sorry but I don't view this as building a tradition, I think it's just lazy.

    Building a tradition would be properly honoring former players like Ralston and Twellman when they stepped away from the team, it could be building a "ring of honor" or some other enshrinement for former Revs, etc. The Krafts and Revs FO as a whole have shown little to no interest in building and preserving the tradition of this organization.
     
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  13. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm assuming this is where we were supposed to start laughing. Because I did...
     
  14. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you for going out on a limb.
     
  15. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've always liked Andy and was sad to see him leave. I too believe it was Nicol who got in his head in a bad way. Hopefully he comes back from his walkabout as a better Andy Dorman and really helps the team.
     
  16. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does this mean he fell into their laps?


    Kyle McCarthy@kylejmccarthy
    Dorman signing mechanics: #revs had right of first refusal on Dorman when he returned to MLS. Not a discoverable player.
     
  17. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
    Club:
    Stade Brestois 29
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Had it been Parkhurst it would not have entered my mind. But a 30 yr. old Dorman....
     
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  18. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    They had him in scrimmaging with the team in close door workouts.
    When did 30 get too old? That's still pretty darn close to the peak age for most players.
     
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  19. frankieg73

    frankieg73 Member

    New England Revolution
    Portugal
    Apr 8, 2001
    St. Petersburg, FL (not my choice)
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Loved Andy as a player when he was here, and he is a likeable guy, but this move reeks of laziness. Since he left the SPL in 2010 he couldn't get into the starting lineup for a championship club and spent last year with a league two side.

    I wonder if another midfielder is really what this team needs. If he plays like he did in 2007, when he filled the attacking CM role, sneaking into the open spaces vacated by defenders that were busy marking Twellman and Noonan, then he could prove useful. If the contract is reasonable and a current mid or two (*cough* Feilhaber *cough*) are on the way out, it makes more sense.

    Just wonder if the club is 'settling' for a known commodity instead of aiming higher.
     
  20. huskydeac

    huskydeac Member+

    Mar 31, 2009
    If this were not a former player, it would look to be a poor signing. Personally I don't think that changes because he is a former player.

    He played for a crappy team in the SPL and then a League 2 team, where he wasn't all that outstanding. One could argue he's been struggling against worse competition than he'll face in MLS. Unless this is for league minimum, I don't like it, and it does look lazy.
     
  21. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    People tend to overvalue MLS relative to the Championship/SPL/other UK lower mid level leagues. Players from the Championship for example have done fairly well in MLS (Huckerby and Rodgers come to mind). I feel like these leagues translate better to MLS more often than some of the South and Central American leagues where players are usually booms or busts.

    The fact that he was playing in the SPL and later the Championship and League 2 doesn't really scare me. What is cause for concern is that he hasn't been playing much recently, so fitness and health could be an issue.
     
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  22. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "We will not be outworked"
     
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  23. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've seen the team playing in full A squad MLS Regular season games this year and wasn't impressed very often. So, I hope those scrimmages weren't against a high school team or some local college squad!
    I would have been happier knowing they saw him in Championship play, if indeed he got into a few games there!

    Oh, well... I - TRUST - THE - FO - OF - THE - REVS - TO - MAKE - SURE - THEY - FIND - TOP - NOTCH - PLAYERS - TO - BETTER - THIS - SEASON'S - GOD - AWFUL - RECORD
     
  24. Joeyfitzclick

    Joeyfitzclick Member

    Jun 9, 2008
    Newport RI
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Perovic is next.
     
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  25. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably as simple as the head coach thinking Dorman's a good player who was available to them, so he signed him.

    That said, why do I have visions of JMM's 2nd stint with the Revs? Andy was a good player the first time around, for some reason, this makes me nervous.
     
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