2014 FIFA WC QLF, AFC: Group A (II) [R]

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  1. teammellieIRANfan

    Feb 28, 2009
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
  2. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to the referees from Iran in Jahan Varzesh newspaper:

    M. Nouri goal was correct.

    For Uzbekistan goal, the referee should not have gave free kick to Uzbekistan. Sanjar Tursunov could get red card.

    There was a foul on Montazeri in Uzbek penalty box and that was fifty fifty.

    The referee did not give a clear free kick behind Uzbek penalty box to Iran

    It shows that this referee from Uae had something against us. I am just sad for some of our players like Dejagah, and Nekounam.
     
  3. Mudang

    Mudang Member+

    Feb 16, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Did the Uzbekis grass roll?
     
  4. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Omg wtf with that disallowed goal. Frankly the way Uzbekistan were clearing the ball in that 90 second clip they deserved to concede. Not bad work by Iran there.

    Feel sorry for Iran here, reminds me of Uzbek v Japan in 2009.

    Japan managed to get the win in the end, but I was so so furious throughout the 90+ minutes. Seems the same crap was pulled on Iran.

    Though the Japan Uzbek game was hypothesised by somebody as being done to keep Qatar in the race, not to favour Uzbekistan necessarily.
     
  5. teammellieIRANfan

    Feb 28, 2009
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Honestly, whatever. The game is over and done with. Uzbeks got the three vital points, and anything else is irrelevant. I think most of the blame lies with ourselves. Yeah the ref was an utter disgrace, but I think Iran should still have powered through that and won this crucial match, at home.
    But sometimes things dont always go as you want.
    Our direct qualification is at risk, but the only thing we can do is to recharge and fight our hardest for our lives the three last matches, and treat every match as if it was a final.
     
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  6. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So do you think did this referee kill Iran on the purpose?

    Did not accept our clear goal and Uzbekistan goal was not even foul.
     
  7. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 1, 2004
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    You posted the wrong URL/link. This is the correct one for the Uzbek goal: http://www.pfdctv.com/?p=5843

    It's amazing how a 100% red-card for Uzbek player elbowing the neck of the Iranian defender on the ground, somehow magically became a free kick against Iran!?

    Oh and here is another first for AFC and Asia. An Uzbek player trying to celebrate with the kind referee after the match:

     
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  8. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I don't know, I didn't watch the whole game. I'm convinced that the 2009 Uzbek Japan game was an attempted fix (albeit failed), based on the needs of another country.
     
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  9. Dejagah93

    Dejagah93 Member

    Sep 6, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    That´s not true. I think they are equal. You were better in Tashkent and we were better in Tehran. Unfortunately there are matches where the better team loses especially in Asia
     
  10. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 1, 2004
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    It was the exact same scenario today. The one outcome that would have given Qatar a slim chance for the second spot was an Uzbek victory. A win for Iran, would have essentially eliminated Qatar given their inferior goal differential. And a tie would have put Iran at 8 points, and still out of Qatar's reach with Iran having a home match against Lebanon coming up after the away match in Qatar which would have meant that Iran could even lose to Qatar in June and still finish above Qatar.

    Look at the goal Iran scored, the assistant referee doesn't even raise his flag until a few seconds AFTER the ball had crossed the line. It's obvious that decision was premeditated, and had nothing to do with his interpretation of the offside rule. It was a clear legit clean goal that was denied by design.
     
  11. Dejagah93

    Dejagah93 Member

    Sep 6, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Congratulations to Uzbekistan and South Korea. Now Iran and Qatar will fight for the 3rd place.
    If we draw Qatar and beat Lebanon then we have the PLAY OFF spot because South Korea and Uzbekistan will beat Qatar. That´s for sure
     
  12. Dejagah93

    Dejagah93 Member

    Sep 6, 2012
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    That´s why I wanted Jordan instead of qatar to be in our group.
     
  13. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 1, 2004
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Ultimately, it's our own fault. We should had eliminated Qatar in the last round of the qualifiers, but we chose not to, by letting our grudge against Bahrain get in the way of rational thinking. Bahrain was a toothless has-been, yet we chose to give new life to this monster that's after us right now.
     
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  14. Umid

    Umid Member

    Nov 4, 2012
    Tokyo-Tashkent
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    If you guys payed attn we didn't talk about ref mistake after we lost in tashkent, thats BS to say ref was helping Qatar or there is conspiracy against iran. And todays win does not guarantee us to qualify directly either. Iran still can win all the games left and qualify directly, so Iran needs to focus for future games and proof todays game was just unlucky for iran, and uzb got fortunate. it's that simple. I hate blame games after got fced up! After all football is just(!!!) game! nothing more! So please calm down (i mean Iran-Arab "battle ") and enjoy beauty of football. If you not make it this time u will make it next time, for us also same.

    I personally want Uzb and Iran qualify to Brazil so Good Luck to Iran.
     
  15. Umid

    Umid Member

    Nov 4, 2012
    Tokyo-Tashkent
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
    You need just remember Uzbekistan vs Bahrein game on 2006 and Uzbekistan vs Iran on june this year. In both games was ref was japanesee, just check it out for urself how their was doing. What i wanna say is all ref (around the world) can fck you up ofcourse not deliberately. it's just human mistakes thats all. I think uzb pretty fair team to play unlike some our arab brothers, and we are not time killers also when we are winning.
     
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  16. Zafar7

    Zafar7 New Member

    Apr 19, 2008
    It's a payback time.

    We all know what happened on June 3rd.
     
  17. LABOO

    LABOO Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Iran has scored only 2 goals in 5 games so far. They lack creativity and accuracy on the pitch. Too many useless crosses.
     
  18. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know we have many problems but the referee cut our head in this game. Akitod showed me their match against Uzbek and how dirty the referee and some Uzbek players played but they scored an early goal in that game. It made it easier for them. The referee did not accept our early goal w/o any reason. (I did not have any problem with grass rolling of Uzbek players only in last a few minutes but they even did psychological war during game. I never expected that from them)

    I could take this lose even with not accepting our goal if the referee was not Arab. B/c of old rivalry, Arabs always do anything against us (Not all of them) Even Uzbek goal was not foul. In first leg, Nishimura had only one big mistake but the referee for second leg had many mistakes against us. To me, this was on purpose by this ********ing referee and this is why it is hard for me to take this one. I hope you understand how it hurts to lose that way but we try to forget it soon. (I even congrat to any fan who was against Iran for qualifying as top 2 but I wished that the referee did not involve for that)

    Iran needs only 9 points from its last three games. That is the only way to qualify. Lebanon game is winnable. It is possible to beat Qatar in Doha but we most likely get punish against you guys especially it may be enjoyable for you guys to revenge. Unless Korea qualify before last game and does not bring a good line up against us. I have almost 0 percent hope for that. (Note that If we do not win the Doha match, we may not even have good motivation for last match)

    I congrat Korea and Uzbek qualification now and Iran will be most likely third. Even if we beat the third team of other group there will no be chance to win against Chile or Uruguay. Venezuela is better choice but they are favorite against fifth team of AFC too.

    My suggestion for us is that we do not participate for rest of qualifier. We can change the head of federation and he will be definitely changed. After that we can make new team for next Asian cup with new coach and federation. This is what I think.
     
  19. Dohahah

    Dohahah Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    US, Qatar
    Club:
    Al Sadd SC Doha
    Nat'l Team:
    Qatar
    iranian hypocrisy in bigsoccer:
    • controversial win in tashkent = no conspiracy, just bad luck for o'zbek.
    • controversial loss in tehran = all conspiracy, no bad luck for iran.
    • iran 1, o'zbek 0 = it just happened.
    • o'zbek 1, iran 0 = qatar behind it.
    iranian comedy logic:
    • o'zbek win (8 pts for o'zbek) = better for qatar to qualify even though o'zbek have 2 home games left.
    • iran tie (8 pts for iran) = not good for qatar even though iran will have 2 away games left.
    • so ref makes o'zbek win. this is an insult for o'zbek people.
    • easier for qatar to beat o'zbek in tashkent than for qatar to beat iran in doha.
    iranian double standards:
    • accuse other countries for shamelessly fixing o'zbek game and allowing o'zbek three points.
    • then suggest that iran also fixed the 2-2 game with qatar and that iran should have allowed bahrain to qualify.
    without you iranians, bigsoccer will not be fun.
     
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  20. Dohahah

    Dohahah Member

    Feb 21, 2012
    US, Qatar
    Club:
    Al Sadd SC Doha
    Nat'l Team:
    Qatar
    definite offside and obstructing goalkeeper view.
     
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  21. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    If you go back and see my comments, I never mentioned Qatar for our result yesterday. In 2009, Japan lost to Uzbek at home but that result was not good for Qatar even though referee was with Uzbek. Yesterday draw was better for Qatar. Qatar has nothing to do do with bad referee yesterday. Iran also should blame itself for not beating Qatar at home by weak performance in this round.

    All I am saying is that I feel the referee was against us on purpose yesterday. Not only our goal was not accepted also Uzbek goal was not foul here. He made many mistakes and I think because of bad relationship between Uae and Iran, he may did it on purpose. tbh I was nervous when I heard the referee is from Uae. In first leg at Tashkent only one mistake and that was not on purpose. Anyway it is not worth for me to focus on this too much.
     
  22. Coach2007

    Coach2007 Member

    Jun 29, 2012
    Rio (Rehab)
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I have no bias here but both the Iranian goals were offsite and the referee calls were 100% correct, although one may argue the first one was initially less clear but after further analyzing- it too was offsite. Looks like the Iranian team fell for the offsite trap twice. The Uzbeks too got an offsite call at a crucial stage too. Karma has not bit Iran yet. Hard luck Iranian and goodluck to the Uzbeks.
     
  23. Coach2007

    Coach2007 Member

    Jun 29, 2012
    Rio (Rehab)
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I have no dog in this fight but don't blame the ref! If Iran can't beat Leabanon away, and Qatar at home- blame your National team players and to an extent your coach. You guys already robbed the Uzbeks of 3 points in the first game, and the calls yesterday don't "balance out" the theft since the refs calls yesterday were 100% correct (even western sources called it offsite). Iran has only scored two goals in five games! Don't blame Arabs, UAE, AFC, Refs and anyone else but yourselves. The Japanese ref in Tashkent gave you guys a free start with nullifying the 100% legit Uzbek goal. If anyone- Uzbeks have consistently been robbed in the AFC (against Bahrain and recently Iran)
     
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  24. hubay

    hubay New Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Uzbekistan
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    It wasn't a controversial decision. It was a good call. :thumbsup:
    We deserved to gain 6 points from Iran.
     
  25. Coach2007

    Coach2007 Member

    Jun 29, 2012
    Rio (Rehab)
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Mani- I read your posts and although i may disagree with you, I often find your comments fair and not based on emotions. I'm sure the Uzbek only reacted based on emotion and tried hugging the Ref with the ref immediately pushed aside. Rest assured- there was no conspiracy against Iran, and the better team does not always win in football. It only takes one lucky opportunity.
    For the record we (our B team) drew against Argentina (full squad including Messi) yesterday at home in Riyadh- whats your conspiracy story here against us? Oh yes the ref was from Bahrain.
    Heck- if UAE hated Iranians; there would not be over a million of them in the UAE.
     

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