Revs Offseason News, 2012 (Part 1)

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  1. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No idea where to put this, so figured I'd just start a new one.

    Not sure if this link will work for the Globe... but FDA has a soccer notes column today, with the last part about the Revs.

    Doesn't sound like Reis is coming back. Heaps doesn't believe that they've seen enough of Shuttleworth. etc etc.

    If someone can put up a working link, I'd appreciate it.
     
  2. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOVE Matt Reis... but I think it's time to turn the page. I think Shuttleworth's been pretty decent, and I wouldn't have a major problem if we went into next year with him as the starter... provided they either acquire a veteran backup or use a fairly high pick on a goalkeeper in the draft.

    A veteran defensive midfielder who's played at a high level and knows the league? Hmmm...
     
  3. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    If Matt is done, I wish the team would have let the fans say good-bye to him. Considering the game meant nothing...
     
  4. ktsd

    ktsd Member

    Jul 20, 1999
    Bethel, CT, USA
    Bah. Too much effort.

    Plus the FO's cards would have moved too far away from their vest had they, you know, even mentioned that he might be on his way out. Don't want to tip their hand with so much important ... I-don't-know-what ... at stake.

    Kevin D.
     
  5. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did you read the part about Reis having one more start would kick in the guarantee on his contract for next year? Then Heaps says, "but that's not my department..." Sure, it makes sense for them to give Shuttleworth some starts to see what he can do, but this reminds me of the scene in the movie "Eight Men Out" where pitcher Eddie Cicotte was to get a bonus if he won 30 games. After 29 wins with a month left in the season he didn't start another game.

    Then again, the Revs don't want to be hamstrung by a hefty contract a la Joseph, whom they were lucky to trade. But if he was planning to retire, the contract doesn't matter anyway. My guess is that Reis would like to come back for another year, but the Revs only want him on short money. If they can't reach agreement it would be a shame for the best keeper we ever had to end it like this.
     
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  6. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope missed that. Thanks.
    Reis had taken a pretty large paycut from '11 to '12 anyway.

    I've heard pretty reliably that he doesn't expect to be back.
     
  7. frankieg73

    frankieg73 Member

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    Apr 8, 2001
    St. Petersburg, FL (not my choice)
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    New England Revolution
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    Portugal
    There is so much secrecy about player contracts I wonder if we'll ever find out if this is true. Of course, in a Matt Reis vs. Revs' Management version of 'He Said - They Said', I will believe Matt every time.

    BTW: Eight Men Out is an EXCELLENT film. My favourite baseball movie of all time. If you haven't seen it, you really should.
     
  8. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    61* is, without a doubt, the best baseball movie of all time. I will hear arguments to the contrary; but understand, before you start speaking, that you're wrong
     
  9. Revolution909

    Revolution909 Member

    Mar 28, 2011
    Rumford, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nah bros, Angels in the Outfield.


    I assumed that Reis and the Organization were on good terms, and that he would gracefully retire and get a nice coaching job as like assistant to Remi Roy or something. Heir apparent to Remi's. job.
    Maybe he is in a Ralston situation in which he will go to some other dump team in hopes of being a coach someday... wans't Ralston's initial parting not amicable?
     
  10. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Air Bud! :)

    *Actually never saw it ... like most baseball movies.
     
  11. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Air Bud baseball movie was called "Seventh Inning Fetch"

    #SoundsLikeAJokeButItsNot
     
  12. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, I still think Matt has at least one more good year in him. It's gotta be the Heaps "This is my team now" dynamic.
     
  13. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
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    United States
    See, I agree with this. I think he'd be a great help to a future keeper. But I don't think Shuttleworth is the future, seems like the Revs are going to try it though. Of course, Bobby is extremely cheap...
     
  14. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Reis really wants to go into GK coaching, what better way to do it than to make him a "player-coach?" He can be paid a decent wage, but assign 75% of that to "coaching" and keep his "player" cap figure low to allow for flexibility to pay other players.

    Seems like they should have given him the start in the last home game, just to let fans give him a proper sendoff
     
  15. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like this idea. Pay him the league minimum. Then pay him an additional 60k as a coach. That's what savvy teams do. Give him a few games, but mostly train Shuttleworth (and/or a draft pick) as a replacement.
     
  16. Doublecard

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    Reis should replace Causey. God, that would be awesome! :sneaky:


    But... when he retires, I'll be thoroughly depressed for a few weeks. What can I say? He was amazing, I was young, I looked up to him. He's been my hero for a long time. Quite the personality, too, with an abnormally high voice for a guy his size. And he had great foot skills that's rare to find in a keeper.

    And I hate how the organization doesn't honor these players on the way out. We love them and they do nothing to credit or tribute to them. The apathy is a cold slap to the face.
     
  17. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just wondering... when Shalrie was traded, did anyone ever see a quote from anyone named Kraft thanking him for his years of service, etc?
     
  18. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
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    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Reis retires/is let go this offseason, I will spend the entirety of next year calling for Heaps' head.

    We've already ********ed up Steve Ralston Night, we can't get our shit together for Taylor Twellman Night, and we're *thisclose* to letting the franchise's best goalkeeper and last remnant of our successful stretch go without a curtain call?

    ******** that nonsense about the guaranteed contract. If you couldn't start him, sub him in during the 85th minute of the last home game. Give him a chance to say goodbye, and give the fans a chance to say thanks. Not doing so is a damn crime.
     
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  19. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
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    Have you come to expect any better? This organization has no sense of history at all.
     
  20. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
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    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    There's a difference between what I expect and what I demand.
     
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  21. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I think every game Shuttleworth can get under his belt is worth something.

    It's great to be sentimental and all, but I'm not gonna blame Heaps or the Revs for trying to keep their focus on improving the team first and foremost.

    IIRC, plenty of people were calling on them to play their younger guys down the stretch. And, to the extent that this run has been a trial for Shuttleworth, to me it's shown that he can be a competent keeper, one whose still a little raw and makes some mistakes, but a guy who wouldn't be a disaster as the #1 keeper.
     
  22. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Agreed, but if Reis really is retiring it would have been nice to at least give him the last 20 minutes of the game against Chicago. Look at what Montreal did with Sebrango this past weekend, Reis deserves at least that, if not more. It would also make this situation a lot easier to deal with if he would announce whether or not he was retiring/returning.
     
  23. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
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  24. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    God, I hate everything about the article.

    Paraphrase: Things are looking up, we finished the season on a good note, there's a lot to be optimistic about, we have a good core of players, blah, blah, blah, more of the same. It's all rinse, wash, repeat with this franchice.

    I'm going to try to find the same article that McCarthy, FDA, another Kraft chronie, etc. wrote at the end of last season after drawing Toronto at the death in the finale. Details to come...
     
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  25. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
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    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking the same thing ...
     

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